Wardle investigation?

[TheSultan]

And, the accuser should wait as well before going public...? Bottom line is that he was a walk-on and could have dropped off the team at any time....

Oh I agree with you completely on that.

[IWB]

I don't believe the class thing. If it were true, don't you think there would be a reason? "Coach, I want to take this class. It is M-W-F from 3:00-3:50."

I can easily see a coach saying no, as you will miss 1/2 of practice three days per week. I have no idea what the situation is, but I have a hard time believing any of this is "the absolute truth", probably all exaggerated a great deal.

[mufansince72]

I don't believe the class thing. If it were true, don't you think there would be a reason? "Coach, I want to take this class. It is M-W-F from 3:00-3:50."

I can easily see a coach saying no, as you will miss 1/2 of practice three days per week. I have no idea what the situation is, but I have a hard time believing any of this is "the absolute truth", probably all exaggerated a great deal.

Quite frankly Jim, the not being able to take the classes he wanted is the only part of the story I believe. I had heard that as early as first semester.

[IWB]

Yes, but why? Was it a class time interfering with practice? Was it to keep the overall course load down? I am not saying it is not true, because I don't know, I am just saying that if it is true, what was the reason?

If my kid asks if she can go to the park with her friends and I say no because she hasn't finished her homework, is it fair for her to tell everyone that I won't let her go because I am being mean? No - there was a reason.

The kid saying Wardle wouldn't let him take a class sounds like a partial story to me.

[mufansince72]

Could be. I'm just saying that is the only thing in the story that sounds plausible to me.
Classes like chemistry and biology at the freshman level typically have several sections and different class times. If it was a scheduling with baskeball practice issue I think that could have been worked around by taking the class at a different time. Maybe coach Wardle wants the kids to take harder classes such as these during summer school. I don't know. I'm just saying that is the only part of the story that I believe has any merit.

[MUMac]

Yes, but why? Was it a class time interfering with practice? Was it to keep the overall course load down? I am not saying it is not true, because I don't know, I am just saying that if it is true, what was the reason?

If my kid asks if she can go to the park with her friends and I say no because she hasn't finished her homework, is it fair for her to tell everyone that I won't let her go because I am being mean? No - there was a reason.

The kid saying Wardle wouldn't let him take a class sounds like a partial story to me.

Exactly. That has been my point to '72. He appears to believe one side of the story without knowing the other side. That is a dangerous way to operate. There are likely reasons for it, if it actually happened.

[TulsaWarrior]

GB is a smaller school. Your class schedule times for chemistry and biology may be limited in a given semester. Again, so far we're just hearing one side of the story and left to figure out the side of a person who is honoring a gag order and is limited because of privacy laws. (can't talk about a student's situation publicly) The Bross Family attorney knows that the school and coach cannot speak specifics at this stage of the investigation. Why did he allow his client to talk to a reporter at this particular time? I wish I had the answer.

[mufansince72]

GB is a smaller school. Your class schedule times for chemistry and biology may be limited in a given semester. Again, so far we're just hearing one side of the story and left to figure out the side of a person who is honoring a gag order and is limited because of privacy laws. (can't talk about a student's situation publicly) The Bross Family attorney knows that the school and coach cannot speak specifics at this stage of the investigation. Why did he allow his client to talk to a reporter at this particular time? I wish I had the answer.

As I said earlier, I have no clue! I don't know what the Bross's have to gain by talking about this publicly.

[mufansince72]

Exactly. That has been my point to '72. He appears to believe one side of the story without knowing the other side. That is a dangerous way to operate. There are likely reasons for it, if it actually happened.

Didn't say that I absolutely believed it. I said that the class thing was the only part of the story that I thought was plausible. Jim, why would a coach of a walk on who is red shirted who can't play anyway care what a kid's course load is? Wouldn't you actually want the kid to load up on classes during this period so maybe he could have easier courses during a period of eligibility?

You guys seem to think I am defending Bross. I'm not. I believe Wardle's side of the story. I just think that if any part of this story is true it is most likely to be the academic portion.

[TulsaWarrior]

As I mentioned before I have worked with kids on college class schedule issues both for on campus and distance learning. I can't tell you how many kids from schools across the country are taking DL courses, from my former school because it fit their schedule better and was more cost effective. Getting the classes you want and need to get your degree is a juggling act. And yes someone who has worked on the college level for years knows better than a teenager or parent what may be the best approach. My bet is the GB basketball program has a pretty good academic adviser because the team has had few academic casualties over the past decade. Wasn't Coug's the only one in the past four years?