Catholic 7 working on exit strategy

[TheSultan]

Dayton, SLU and George Mason?? Yuck...yuck and more yuck. Hello mid major. Recruits will LOVE knowing they can battle against powerhouse programs like SLU, Dayton and George Mason. If the presidents pick any one of these three instead of Creighton, they are the biggest group of idiots to ever walk the face of the earth. In fact the simple fact that George mason and Duquesne would even be under consideration(if true), proves the collective IQ of this group is seriously lacking. They should let me pick the teams. At least then the conference would get respect.

First, the entire idea of labeling a conference "mid-major" because of their bottom tier is silly. But I have to admit, this is the first I have heard someone say that if they don't pick Creighton they are "idiots." Creighton has done nothing of significance in the NCAA tournament. Their last Sweet 16 was in 1974. And outside of the recent McDermott buzz, really hasn't moved the college basketball needle at all. Not sure how having them puts us in some sort of favorable light, while George Mason, SLU and Dayton wouldn't.

[MU_Iceman]

First, the entire idea of labeling a conference "mid-major" because of their bottom tier is silly. But I have to admit, this is the first I have heard someone say that if they don't pick Creighton they are "idiots." Creighton has done nothing of significance in the NCAA tournament. Their last Sweet 16 was in 1974. And outside of the recent McDermott buzz, really hasn't moved the college basketball needle at all. Not sure how having them puts us in some sort of favorable light, while George Mason, SLU and Dayton wouldn't.

I agree....not a huge Creighton fan either...but sure as hell like them more then any of the other aforementioned teams with the exception of Xavier and Butler. What have Dayton and SLU done to move the college basketball needle?? Yet everyone seemingly wants them in the conference. We don't need more DePaul's...One is bad enough. I still don't know why they don't at least give serious consideration to asking Memphis and Temple?? Seriously...what major conference will ever want their football?? They'd be a "safe" choice, and seriously help the conference image.

[TheSultan]

I agree....not ah uge Creighton fan either...but sure as hell like them more then any of the other aforementioned teams with the exception of Xavier and Butler.

Why? George Mason has been to a Final Four in the past decade and is a located in the DC area. Dayton has arguably been just as successful as Creighton. SLU at little less so, but not significantly so.

[MU_Iceman]

Why? George Mason has been to a Final Four in the past decade and is a located in the DC area. Dayton has arguably been just as successful as Creighton. SLU at little less so, but not significantly so.

People keep talking about market size! WHO CARES?? This should be about the quality of basketball. Period. Georgetown has the DC market locked up anyway. VCU before any of those, if they HAVE to take more than 10. Who is going to watch the SLU-Dayton game other than fans in those markets?? NO one...they don't register with the average college BB fan, at all. Now VCU....people know them because of their recent success...they will tune in to watch them.

[TheSultan]

People keep talking about market size! WHO CARES?? This should be about the quality of basketball. Period. Georgetown has the DC market locked up anyway. VCU before any of those, if they HAVE to take more than 10. Who is going to watch the SLU-Dayton game other than fans in those markets?? NO one...they don't register with the average college BB fan, at all. Now VCU....people know them because of their recent success...they will tune in to watch them.

Ice, you are all over the place man.

First, I will note that you never answered my question about what excites you about Creighton. Again, Creighton has been to one S16...back in 1974.

Second, you bring up VCU's recent success while ignoring George Mason's. You do realize that George Mason went to a Final Four five years before VCU did. I mean, unless you are a flea on crack, you aren't going to think that one has a better history than the other. Since 1990 they have the exact same number of tournament appearances.

[MU_Iceman]

Ice, you are all over the place man.

First, I will note that you never answered my question about what excites you about Creighton. Again, Creighton has been to one S16...back in 1974.

Second, you bring up VCU's recent success while ignoring George Mason's. You do realize that George Mason went to a Final Four five years before VCU did. I mean, unless you are a flea on crack, you aren't going to think that one has a better history than the other. Since 1990 they have the exact same number of tournament appearances.

I know you are a BIG proponent of Dayton...what is your wood for Dayton?? Tell me what they have done that's been relevant in the last few years?? How many NCAA tournaments have they been too?? Don't give me market size or anything like that. What has their BB product done on the floor?? I know what Creighton's has done...This isn't about what they have done in the past...this is about what have you done for me lately. Everyone cites the "histories" of these schools. So?? How is 1998 relevant to what their programs are today?? I said...nothing excites me about Creighton either. But I'm taking them far before SLU, Duquesne, G. Mason, or sure as hell more than Dayton. Why?? Their recent tournament history. I can't give you more than that because that's what I'm basing it on. Period. Now...your turn...what excites you about Dayton or SLU(specifically Dayton) based on RECENT tournament history. 1983 ain't walking thru that door. I'll hang up and listen.

[TheSultan]

I know you are a BIG proponent of Dayton...what is your wood for Dayton?? Tell me what they have done that's been relevant in the last few years?? How many NCAA tournaments have they been too?? Don't give me market size or anything like that. What has their BB product done on the floor?? I know what Creighton's has done...This isn't about what they have done in the past...this is about what have you done for me lately. Everyone cites the "histories" of these schools. So?? How is 1998 relevant to what their programs are today?? I said...nothing excites me about Creighton either. But I'm taking them far before SLU, Duquesne, G. Mason, or sure as hell more than Dayton. Why?? Their recent tournament history. I can't give you more than that because that's what I'm basing it on. Period. Now...your turn...what excites you about Dayton or SLU(specifically Dayton) based on RECENT tournament history. 1983 ain't walking thru that door. I'll hang up and listen.

First off, I am not really excited about Dayton. No idea where you got that. What I have said is that I trust the people making these decisions, and if they choose Dayton, then I will be fine with it.

Second, you are ridiculously inconsistent. You are excited about Creighton's "recent tournament history." Do you know what Creighton's recent tournament history is? 7 bids since 2000 - two victories. George Mason was in a Final Four in 2006. So who has the better "recent tournament history???"

Honestly, you really need to tone it down. Your immaturity completely undermines your arguments.