I kind of hope its creighton or gonzaga, or VCU before dayton for many reasons, but their arrogance just adds another to the list. I for one will laugh heartedly if they aren't asked to join and Butler and X are. Then see their tune change on their board....I suspect they will ask the president of UCONN how to properly get on their hands and knees begging to be a part of this new conference.
Priders are f-ing nuts unfortunately it is the most active forum. You have been warned. Given that, most of them seem to be pro move.
I think the others may be paranoid from when we moved to Great Midwest and promptly crapped the bed in the 90s. I dont anticipate that happening again with Archie this time.
Glad to know that the rest of you are more down to earth, I went over there and was quite blown away. I am ALWAYS happy to have level headed quests though.
Hi, Creighton fan here from Omaha. I know the general consensus from everybody is they would absolutely love to be in this conference. Also, being a Creighton fan we fear that Creighton will be left out of this conference just based on it's geography. I would think that the Catholic 7 school would have to look at Creighton above Dayton unless Xavier is absolutely fighting for Dayton to be in with them. How could you not want to enter into a new market (dayton doesn't do that) with a great team that is very well support? I mean every night Creighton is playing in front of 18,000 fans, no matter the opponent...I've got to think that counts for something. Is there any truth to the article in that NJ Star ledger that Xavier, Butler, and Creighton are who they first want. And I'm not to bash Dayton...they are a great school but I think if it is 10 teams...Creighton would be the better choice, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a Creighton fan. I think this league has much more potential as a 12 team conference. I know your guys trusted Marquette source seem to think it's a done deal with Xavier, Butler, and Dayton being a 10 team conference.
Strictly personaly opinion, lmdramos, I have Creighton at #5 on my list. Xavier, Butler, Gonzaga, and VCU are the teams I'd take first. My main worry with Creighton is if they'll maintain when McDermott leaves. But I still would put them ahead of Dayton.
The impression I get from what I've heard is that Creighton is a maybe if we go to 10, but I feel confident they'd be included if we went to 12. Also, I'm not convinced we'll do this all at once. I could see adding 3 for the first season or 2, then expanding to 12.
I'd like to go 12 right away and add X, Butler, Creighton, Dayton, and St. Louis in that order... Then if in some crazy way G'Town takes off for the ACC we grab VCU.
X does NOT give the dayton market at all. The Dayton market is somewhat Bigger than Omaha. Creighton has better recent success than UD but "worse" geography. I hope for 12 w/ Creighton SLU and Dayton but not sure of economics.
VCU has higher rated RPI's in hoops and other team sports. Have to take them in the C10. I also wonder how quick the holy fathers move to 12-14...as they seem to be sensitive to not causing too much conference turmoil especially considering their Catholic brethern's positions. I like 14, but am guessing they move slowly unless ESPN says differently.
This really isn't about the Dayton or Omaha markets. This is about what program fits the conference better and is a better brand for basketball. And no offense, but you are talking about schools that have had to take road trips to Florida. Going to Omaha wouldn't be a problem.