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    BrewCityBall Radio's Inside The Al

    BrewCityBall Radio's Inside The AL will be on Monday night - The Big East's Senior Associate Commissioner of Men's Basketball Stu Jackson will be with us!
    "When March Madness spills into April.... that's the gravy!" - Homer Simpson

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    Look forward to the show tonight with Stu Jackson!
    March Madness starts in November

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    Jim - can you raise the issue of inconsistency in officiating this season? I'm curious to hear Jackson's take.
    90% of quotes on the internet are wrong.
    - Abraham Lincoln

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    Quote Originally Posted by MayorBeluga View Post
    Jim - can you raise the issue of inconsistency in officiating this season? I'm curious to hear Jackson's take.
    Also, can he verify if Cahill still has a feminine gait?

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    Someone brought up how referees are basically free agents, working as many games as they can because they are all paid per game. Could you ask if the Big East has considered having their own officials and maybe paying them specifically to do Big East games during the conference season? While it might be a little more costly, the benefit in terms of knowing you have quality officials that are able to get a bit more rest and dedicate themselves to consistency in your conference would seem to be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77" View Post
    Someone brought up how referees are basically free agents, working as many games as they can because they are all paid per game. Could you ask if the Big East has considered having their own officials and maybe paying them specifically to do Big East games during the conference season? While it might be a little more costly, the benefit in terms of knowing you have quality officials that are able to get a bit more rest and dedicate themselves to consistency in your conference would seem to be worth it.
    Neither the NCAA nor the conferences would do this since once they become employees, meaning they get benefits. From the standpoint of the NCAA and conferences, economically they want refs to be independent contractors. That means they can do any many or as few games as they want.
    90% of quotes on the internet are wrong.
    - Abraham Lincoln

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    If they were contracted for 2-1/2 months of the season (Dec 31-March 15) it just seems like a viable option if it guarantees better officiating. I know there'd be a greater expense, but if you are giving benefits, wouldn't that allow you to pay them at a lower level? Get a crew of 9 core officials and 6 part timers. The 9 would work 3-4 games per week, the part-timers would fill in when you have more than 3 games in a single day. There'd be a total of 98 games (including BET) over roughly 11-12 weeks. Adding benefits during that time would be a nice incentive to keep them from doing other league games, maybe allowing you to get them at a lower game rate (though with benefits it would be a bigger expenditure overall I'm sure).

    I definitely won't admit to knowing all the economics involved or what the league budget is, but it sure feels like it would be worth a little extra coin if it led to better quality and consistency in refereeing.

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    My top of mind estimate would be that having employee refs would cost about 120-40% more than the current situation to keep their take home pay the same.

    Right now, refs work about six games a week on average. If they were employees, and you cut them down to three games a week, you would have to pay them more. You would also be on the hook for social security, unemployment, liability, workers comp, health care, etc. That might be easy for the big conferences to do, but the smaller ones? What about when they all start filing unemployment claims when the season is over?

    On top of that, there is no guaranty that this would increase the quality of the refereeing.

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    I hope Stu talks about what the conference thinks about the partnership with FS1 in terms of scheduling with dates and times. Last year, the coaches hated 2 games in 3 days, something they changed this year. What can we learn and change in year 3.
    March Madness starts in November

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    My top of mind estimate would be that having employee refs would cost about 120-40% more than the current situation to keep their take home pay the same.

    Right now, refs work about six games a week on average. If they were employees, and you cut them down to three games a week, you would have to pay them more. You would also be on the hook for social security, unemployment, liability, workers comp, health care, etc. That might be easy for the big conferences to do, but the smaller ones? What about when they all start filing unemployment claims when the season is over?

    On top of that, there is no guaranty that this would increase the quality of the refereeing.
    There's no guarantee, but I can see it being worth trying on a 2-year basis. If it doesn't work, go back to what sort of works now. But if it does, why not be the trailblazer in improving the level of refereeing in the sport?

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