OSU Part 4

[Goose85]

I'm starting to side with the OK State fans. This was the weakest effort yet.

Some recruits got lucky on their visit - shocking.
Some attractive college females were eager to have relations with high level athletes - also shocking.
I thought they usually went after the bookworm type kids for a romp.

Not sure this is so unique to OK State that an whole expose had to be written, as if it happend at no other school.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...?sct=hp_t11_a2

[TheSultan]

Yeah no kidding. Significantly shorter than the first two. I bet this thing was hacked to death by the editors last night considering the fall out from the first three parts.

[warriorfan4life]

I think all of this is very believable. However, it is hard to take this series super seriously when a primary part of this was researched by an Oklahoma fan that has referred to OSU as Chokie State in major articles.

[pbiflyer]

I'm starting to side with the OK State fans. This was the weakest effort yet.

Some recruits got lucky on their visit - shocking.
Some attractive college females were eager to have relations with high level athletes - also shocking.
I thought they usually went after the bookworm type kids for a romp.

I disagree, I was a high level athlete and seemingly never got preferential treatment.
But yeah, with all the hype, not so much to the story.

[IWB]

I think you guys are hitting the nail on the head on all points.

Goo - Exactly - happens at every school around the country. Drinking, marijuana and sex - wow, it must be out of hand there! Only issue is payment of players, but I would be willing to bet that what used to be referred to as the $5 handshake is not the $500 hand shake and probably happens at major football schools more than we would ever see.

Sultan - Exactly - wouldn't part four be the gigantic bombshell? The too long but worth the read type stuff? No, much smaller, so I bet the editors, at the advice of attorneys, sliced the crap out of the last installment.

Fan4life - The fact that any major outlet would allow someone that closely tied to the subject's #1 enemy is baffling. The guy has openly ripped OSU in the past, beyond any form of journalistic integrity, and he has done it repeatedly. I bet this guy hatched the idea for this story when the OSU fan blog ran a headline that this guy had herpes because it was on the internet so it must be true.

[IrwinFletcher]

So the argument against this whole series is "everyone does it so its no big deal"?

I for one am glad it is being exposed. Maybe it will wake some people up and things done collectively. The minute we think it is no big deal because everyone is doing the same thing is the minute we lose an integrity in collegiate sports.

[CaribouJim]

So the argument against this whole series is "everyone does it so its no big deal"?

I for one am glad it is being exposed. Maybe it will wake some people up and things done collectively. The minute we think it is no big deal because everyone is doing the same thing is the minute we lose an integrity in collegiate sports.

I guess I'm an outlier too Fletcher. At a minimum I hope that it does shed some light on this stuff. If "everyone" is doing it in football I guess you can assume the same for college b-ball and that would include MU too seeing "everyone" is doing it and that is OK?

If only half the stuff they've alleged is true in this series I think it is beyond disturbing. These coaches are the guys that are ingraining life lessons and building men and all that crap? These are the kids that are going to possibly get compensated? With the extra cash I doubt they are going to buy a winter coat or go to the movies.

No wonder the majority of pro athletes go broke or are in severe financial straits within years of retirement. Sounds like college really didn't do much to prepare them for the future. Sounds more like a 4 year frat party.

As far as lawsuits following this series - maybe, maybe not. I doubt it. You hear the same thing when guys are accused of PED use. Has there ever been one?

[unclejohn]

I have to agree about this latest installment. For the most part, I think the series has painted an unfavorable picture of OSU, and has certainly suggested that some bad things were going on, and coaches at least turned a blind eye. This last one borders on silly. Lots of teams have been using good looking girls as hostesses for years. No surprise that they recruit the good looking ones. SI has even mentioned it in other articles and profiled some of the girls. And from time immemorial, some of the cute chicks wind up being cheerleaders, and some of the cheerleaders end up sleeping around. The thing that strikes me about this article is that it keeps coming back to "a small number" of the hostesses. Hell, a small number of the women, give or take, on any campus are sluts, and these are the ones who choose to congregate with athletes, who are often the most popular, and let's face it, best looking people on campus. Not surprising that some of them wind up in bed.

As for the fact that the head coach met with them individually, big deal! So he gave them a pep-talk. Told them they were important to the program. Even suggested that they should look nice. None of those are out of bounds. Nowhere in the article does anyone say or even suggest that they were supposed to sleep with the players. If it would have happened, at least one of these women would have said so, or would have said something like, "It was pretty much understood that we had to ______ this or that player. Not a word of that. All this article did was point out that college students behave like college students. At least some of them, some of the time. Perhaps not the most laudable thing in the world, but we live in a fallen world.

[TheSultan]

From Deadspin this morning: "Which brings us to SI's Orange Pride source, Chantal Sanders. She apparently was not enrolled at OSU during the time she was quoted to be. SI said she was part of Orange Pride for the 2003-2004 academic year, which begins in the fall of 2003. A school spokesman said she was only enrolled for two semesters, the spring and summer semesters of 2003."

[pbiflyer]

So the argument against this whole series is "everyone does it so its no big deal"?

I for one am glad it is being exposed. Maybe it will wake some people up and things done collectively. The minute we think it is no big deal because everyone is doing the same thing is the minute we lose an integrity in collegiate sports.

No, the argument is that it was weak, lame reporting with lots of uncorroborated claims by disgruntles people by a reporter that has shown that he has an axe to grind with OSU.