Larry Brown and SMU Post Season Ban

[TheSultan]

First off, no - I don't want the Feds involved in collegiate sports, I was just saying that is the only way the cheating will ever be exposed, slowed down or stopped.

The NCAA should police itself? For what?

The P5 don't give a crap about amateur status - they have made that clear.

Well then I guess we are going to have to be comfortable with quasi-amateurs playing the game.

[farmerdoc]

Actually, I would invite the federal government to investigate the amateur status of collegiate athletics. If the colleges are going to become semi pro, what stops them from becoming farm clubs to major leagues? I don't think the power five actually want that. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

If the government hitting them in the pocket book it the way to clean up the NCAA and the power 5, I'm not necessarily against it.

[Phantom Warrior]

For the record, Bo had two Mickey D A-A's in Butch and Dekker.

[MUfan12]

For the record, Bo had two Mickey D A-A's in Butch and Dekker.

Dekker wasn't.

[Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"]

Dekker wasn't.

Correct. Probably should have been, but for whatever reason, wasn't. Consensus top-20 kid per RSCI.

[TheSultan]

Actually, I would invite the federal government to investigate the amateur status of collegiate athletics. If the colleges are going to become semi pro, what stops them from becoming farm clubs to major leagues? I don't think the power five actually want that. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

If the government hitting them in the pocket book it the way to clean up the NCAA and the power 5, I'm not necessarily against it.

Why? What federal interest is there?

[farmerdoc]

Why? What federal interest is there?

One could easily argue that the interest of the American public, taxpayer etc... Many of the power 5 schools are taxpayer funded state run institutions, multiple states, all receive federal funds...Therefore all institutions taking those funds can be subjected to the whims of the federal government. If enough people wail loud enough about the NCAA and Power 5, the federal government could potentially be goaded into action.

How about equal rights for athletes not talented enough to make it at a power 5 school? Just cuz I'm not talented enough to play for a power 5 school, I should be treated differently/given less benefits?

The federal government has expanded its reach many times into areas where it could be argued there was not a federal interest.

[TheSultan]

One could easily argue that the interest of the American public, taxpayer etc... Many of the power 5 schools are taxpayer funded state run institutions, multiple states, all receive federal funds...Therefore all institutions taking those funds can be subjected to the whims of the federal government. If enough people wail loud enough about the NCAA and Power 5, the federal government could potentially be goaded into action.

How about equal rights for athletes not talented enough to make it at a power 5 school? Just cuz I'm not talented enough to play for a power 5 school, I should be treated differently/given less benefits?

The federal government has expanded its reach many times into areas where it could be argued there was not a federal interest.

Most of America roots for the Power 5, and I think many don't really care all that much about the amateur status of college athletes. It just really isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things.

[farmerdoc]

[QUOTE=TheSultan;108692]Most of America roots for the Power 5, and I think many don't really care all that much about the amateur status of college athletes. It just really isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things.[/QUOT

I believe "most of America" is a reach. And the bottom dwellers in the power 5 all want to believe they "do it right". Those fans think their programs do not cheat, which is why they are perennial doormats. Really think they wouldn't want the playing field leveled (in their opinions)?

I'm not talking about big donors, or even little donors, I'm talking about John and Jane Q. Public. They still have a sense of right and wrong, good and bad, professional and amateur.

Remember, the power 5 is what 60 ish schools, out of 330+ for D-1 hoops, and how many total colleges?

[Goose85]

Why? What federal interest is there?

There was a lot of 'federal' interest when old Mitch McConnell was talking to the Big 12 and ACC about Louisville.
I think the reason why the other 5 get a shot at a New Year's Day bowl and some of the playoff money is because of some senate pressure to ensure their home state schools were not completely screwed. I recall Orin Hatch making a big stink back when Urban Meyer was the Utah coach and the Utes were being left out of the big bowl game discussion.

Bottom line is there are billions of dollars flying around and a ton of money being spent, all for tax exempt university athletic departments, and millions of dollars of donations going to these departments as well. Doesn't mean they will do anything about it, but at some point they may look at the tax exempt status of athletic departments.