Big East Offseason Thread

[MUBasketball]

Did we really need an article to confirm what we had seen on the floor?

Haha, definitely not!

[Markedman]

St Johns missed on Rowan...

@EvanDaniels: Maverick Rowan has committed to North Carolina State. He finished his necessary coursework to reclassify to 2015 on Friday.

[Markedman]

Nice get for Xavier

@JonRothstein: BREAKING: 2016 PG Quentin Goodin has committed to Xavier, source told @CBSSports. Top-100 player.

[Nukem2]

Interesting stat noted by Dick Vitale in his Roundball Chatter: Xavier has had a record of .500 or better in conference play for 33 straight years ( MCC/A10/BE). That's amazing.

[CaribouJim]

Interesting stat noted by Dick Vitale in his Roundball Chatter: Xavier has had a record of .500 or better in conference play for 33 straight years ( MCC/A10/BE). That's amazing.

....and their recent record in the NCAA's, although no FF's, is pretty impressive as well, at least from a consistency standpoint. Great addition to the BE.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

That is what is pretty surprising, a lot of folks were really excited to add Creighton because they had McDermott, but when you look at their tournament history it really leaves a lot to be desired, Xavier and Butler were by far the better adds.

[MUMac]

Interesting stat noted by Dick Vitale in his Roundball Chatter: Xavier has had a record of .500 or better in conference play for 33 straight years ( MCC/A10/BE). That's amazing.

Which is a longer streak than Duke, Kansas, Kentucky and North Carolina.

[warriorfan4life]

That is what is pretty surprising, a lot of folks were really excited to add Creighton because they had McDermott, but when you look at their tournament history it really leaves a lot to be desired, Xavier and Butler were by far the better adds.

Very happy with all three additions and they easily outpace some of the ołd members like DePaul and Seton Hall. With Creighton's fan support, they will not put up with many 4-14 conference records (and I expect them to be much better this year).

[unclejohn]

Very happy with all three additions and they easily outpace some of the ołd members like DePaul and Seton Hall. With Creighton's fan support, they will not put up with many 4-14 conference records (and I expect them to be much better this year).

Agreed. Butler has consistently gotten more out of less, and nobody can take away their Final Four appearances. Still, those were lightning strikes. They dominated the Horizon League, but that was much easier to do than other leagues, like the MVC. They did not dominate in their one year in the A-10. Xavier has been consistent, but again, arguably in at easier league than the MVC. Creighton has consistently contended in a league that is roughly the same level as the A-10. They have not been great, but they have usually been at least NIT quality, and they have made the NCAA repeatedly. I do not put much stock in how teams or coaches do in the tournament. Too many variables, too much luck. Creighton has wanted to step up its program for a long time, and this is their chance. Playing in the Big East is going to give them a chance to go after better players. For all of them, there are going to be some down years. There have to be. if somebody in the conference is going to 14-4, somebody else is likely to go 4-14. But that will mostly even out, and I expect Creighton most years to be a contender, or at least a tough out. Now, take that team from last year and put them in the Horizon League instead. They might not be better, but their record sure would be.

[MKE_GoldenEagleFan]

Agreed. Butler has consistently gotten more out of less, and nobody can take away their Final Four appearances. Still, those were lightning strikes. They dominated the Horizon League, but that was much easier to do than other leagues, like the MVC. They did not dominate in their one year in the A-10. Xavier has been consistent, but again, arguably in at easier league than the MVC. Creighton has consistently contended in a league that is roughly the same level as the A-10. They have not been great, but they have usually been at least NIT quality, and they have made the NCAA repeatedly. I do not put much stock in how teams or coaches do in the tournament. Too many variables, too much luck. Creighton has wanted to step up its program for a long time, and this is their chance. Playing in the Big East is going to give them a chance to go after better players. For all of them, there are going to be some down years. There have to be. if somebody in the conference is going to 14-4, somebody else is likely to go 4-14. But that will mostly even out, and I expect Creighton most years to be a contender, or at least a tough out. Now, take that team from last year and put them in the Horizon League instead. They might not be better, but their record sure would be.

I get what you are saying, with the new league you can pretty much throw history out the window. Doesn't matter what they did in the Horizon, A-10, or MVC because we don't get tournament credits for that success either. Luckily so far all three seem to be recruiting good which will hopefully result in some more tournament success in the future. It will be hard to truly judge this new conference for at least another 2-3 years because you have to get through a full 4 years of recruiting to see if the impact is there. So far it appears its what everyone expected, still a solid league, but is not the same as what it was. Honestly from MU's perspective Butler, Creighton, and Xavier have all been more valuable to the conference to date that we have. If you have to pick a team that was expected to contribute to the new conference and has been a let down its been MU so far. Now I think we all hope that this year is the beginning of a turn around to the success we have become accustomed to over the last decade.