Fascinating read on Tom Crean ...

[IrwinFletcher]

With Indiana, they went after him a few years prior when Sampson was hired, but he was not interested. He loved it at MU. When they came calling again after Sampson was let go, he again said no, then called them two days later and said he was interested.[/QUOTE]

So what changed?

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

With Indiana, they went after him a few years prior when Sampson was hired, but he was not interested. He loved it at MU. When they came calling again after Sampson was let go, he again said no, then called them two days later and said he was interested.

So what changed?[/QUOTE]

Was kind of wondering the same thing. Was it something on Marquette's end or was it simply he felt ready for the big time?

[MUBasketball]

or was it simply he felt ready for the big time?

Huh?

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

We owe a lot to Crean, no doubt about that as he did tremendous things for our program. There are some idiots out there (irrational fans, professors, etc) that do and say stupid things that impact not only the coach but the coach's family, no doubt about that.

But I have to say, I don't really feel bad for him despite this articles attempt to make me feel that way. He took the Indiana job because as he said "It's Indiana" implying it's special and that you can win big at the school which if history is any indication he is correct. However with that school pedigree you also receive the constant pressure cooker because people expect results and rightfully so. Say what you will about the situation Sampson created or the Butler program or Purdue program but I think even Crean would admit he has not lived up to his expectations for Indiana basketball. Heck he could've stayed at Marquette and probably accomplished the same feats (conference title, S16, a few tourney appearances). The best thing he did was structure the contract with lofty buyouts. Had he not done that, my guess is he'd not be the coach at Indiana.

[pbiflyer]

We owe a lot to Crean, no doubt about that as he did tremendous things for our program. There are some idiots out there (irrational fans, professors, etc) that do and say stupid things that impact not only the coach but the coach's family, no doubt about that.

But I have to say, I don't really feel bad for him despite this articles attempt to make me feel that way. He took the Indiana job because as he said "It's Indiana" implying it's special and that you can win big at the school which if history is any indication he is correct. However with that school pedigree you also receive the constant pressure cooker because people expect results and rightfully so. Say what you will about the situation Sampson created or the Butler program or Purdue program but I think even Crean would admit he has not lived up to his expectations for Indiana basketball. Heck he could've stayed at Marquette and probably accomplished the same feats (conference title, S16, a few tourney appearances). The best thing he did was structure the contract with lofty buyouts. Had he not done that, my guess is he'd not be the coach at Indiana.

First, what the teacher did was despicable.

As far as the negativity, Crean brings much of it on himself. His ironclad contract didn't win anyone over. His attitude does not lend itself to endearment.
And he got what he wanted. Don't feel bad for him in the least. His family? Yes, they should not have to endure what they do.

[WindyCityGoldenEagle]

First, what the teacher did was despicable.

As far as the negativity, Crean brings much of it on himself. His ironclad contract didn't win anyone over. His attitude does not lend itself to endearment.
And he got what he wanted. Don't feel bad for him in the least. His family? Yes, they should not have to endure what they do.

Yep agree with you, sorry if my point about the teacher wasn't clear.

[pbiflyer]

Yep agree with you, sorry if my point about the teacher wasn't clear.

No, it was, I was just pointing out for myself.

[Hamostradamus]

But I have to say, I don't really feel bad for him despite this articles attempt to make me feel that way. He took the Indiana job because as he said "It's Indiana" implying it's special and that you can win big at the school which if history is any indication he is correct. However with that school pedigree you also receive the constant pressure cooker because people expect results and rightfully so.

Agreed. I have no pity for him. If you take a job like Indiana, Texas, even Wisconsin, any school that combines a tradition of winning with an irrational fan base, this will happen. If Bucky's next hoops coach does poorly, he'll get the same response. Or worse. You don't want psycho fans to heckle your kids? Then coach at a good school with a supportive fan base for a reasonable salary. You want to bang the whore, sooner or later you get the clap.

[MUBasketball]

You want to bang the whore, sooner or later you get the clap.

Haha bravo!

[MayorBeluga]

You want to bang the whore, sooner or later you get the clap.

I'm guessing Gato, Goose or IWB's version of this story is better than Hamo's version.