Quote Originally Posted by IrwinFletcher View Post
Kaminsky and Hayes both use the wrap with their arms on the low post, but they don't use their whole arm, just up to the elbow. The use it very well and never ever get called for it.
Correct. They chicken wing ever time, just enough to get them to the baseline. Won't get called because not obvious enough. They hook with their elbow and it creates the split second they need.