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Thread: Big East and the NCAA Tournament

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    Big East and the NCAA Tournament

    Here is what I think the nine Big East teams that harbor tourney hopes still need to finish in conference to make the NCAA's:

    Marquette, Creighton, Xavier: 11-7
    Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's: 10-8
    Villanova, Butler (that win over UNC will look real good come Selection Sunday): 9-9

    I do not expect Creighton to finish anywhere near 11-7, and objectively have a tough time seeing the good guys finish 11-7 either, but feasibly see everyone else meet those benchmarks. I could see DePaul pulling a TCU in the Big 12 last year and finishing 0 for conference play, and Creighton play the role of Texas Tech and finish 6-12 in conference play.

    Edit: Here is a rough projection

    1. Villanova 14-4
    2. Georgetown 12-6
    3. Xavier 11-7
    T4. Providence 10-8
    T4. St. John's 10-8
    T4. Seton Hall 10-8
    7. Butler 9-9
    8. Marquette 8-10
    9. Creighton 6-12
    10. DePaul 0-18
    Last edited by warriorfan4life; 12-23-2014 at 12:00 AM.
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    I think you have Xavier too high, I don't think they will make it either... Obviously this is a way early projection, but I think the tournament teams out of the Big East (assuming no significant injuries) will be Nova, Georgetown, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall, and Butler... That's a great year for this league.
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    DePaul will not go winless in the Big East. I'm worried they might start 1-0.
    March Madness starts in November

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    Providence looked good last night, albeit against a highly overrated Miami team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbiflyer View Post
    Providence looked good last night, albeit against a highly overrated Miami team.
    Hard to say what Miami is. That win at Florida looks pretty good.
    March Madness starts in November

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    Here's my projection:

    1. Villanova 15-3
    2. Georgetown 12-6
    3. St. John's 10-8
    4. Butler 10-8
    5. Marquette 10-8
    6. Providence 9-9
    7. Seton Hall 8-10
    8. Creighton 7-11
    9. Xavier 7-11
    10. DePaul 2-16

    That would give teams the following resumes going into the Big East Tournament:

    Locks

    Villanova 28-3 (15-3), RPI 5, SOS 49
    Georgetown 20-9 (12-6), RPI 18, SOS 7
    St. John's 20-10 (10-8), RPI 27, SOS 16
    Butler 20-11 (10-8), RPI 36, SOS 40

    Bubble

    Providence 19-12 (9-9), RPI 39, SOS 27
    Marquette 18-12 (10-8), RPI 43, SOS 23
    Seton Hall 18-12 (8-10), RPI 47, SOS 40
    Xavier 17-14 (7-11), RPI 60, SOS 21

    Outside Looking In

    Creighton 16-15 (7-11), RPI 111, SOS 67
    DePaul 8-22 (2-16), RPI 244, SOS 73

    If this played out, it would give the league a very good chance at 7 bids to the tournament. If this all played out, Xavier would have a chance to make it 8 if they could beat Creighton and Villanova to get to the semis, while Seton Hall might need wins over DePaul and Georgetown to really feel safe on Selection Sunday. Butler/Marquette and St. John's/Providence would also be huge games at MSG with two teams maybe needing one more win to really feel safe.

    Say this did play out, what would make the Big East Tourney really exciting is literally every game could have NCAA ramifications.

    EDIT: Also, I know I'm pretty down on Xavier. They haven't convinced me yet. While they did a great job of stacking their schedule with the mid-level teams that help you when you win without high risk of losing, the fact is they did lose three games they shouldn't have lost. Long Beach State and Auburn could look pretty bad come Selection Sunday. It's possible Stephen F Austin could be their only top-100 non-conference win if they aren't able to knock off Cincinnati in February.
    Last edited by Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"; 12-24-2014 at 12:03 PM.

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    I think Providence is better then you think and will win at least 10 or 11 games in conference.

    I see Nova, GT, ST Johns and Providence as the top 4 followed by Butler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MU/Panther View Post
    DePaul will not go winless in the Big East. I'm worried they might start 1-0.
    DePaul has lost 5 games in a row by an average of 17 points a game. None of the teams that beat them were ranked.

    Anybody can beat anybody but if MU loses to DePaul they will have nobody to blame but themselves....DePaul has imploded...After showing some promise with the win over Stanford they are back to being the same old bad team they have been for what seems like 10 years now

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    Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein · 29s29 seconds ago
    Seton Hall freshman Isaiah Whitehead is out a few weeks with a stress fracture, per his twitter page. Big loss for Pirates. #SHUBB

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    DePaul loses again.....this time to Loyola Marymount..RPI 261
    Last edited by Markedman; 12-26-2014 at 10:59 AM.

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