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  1. #21
    The second last paragraph says it all.

    Ultimately, this UNC thing may be a real turning point that leads to an overhaul of what it means to be a student athlete.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by CaribouJim View Post
    The second last paragraph says it all.

    Ultimately, this UNC thing may be a real turning point that leads to an overhaul of what it means to be a student athlete.

    Don't count on it. Until more people care about classroom performance versus on-court or on-field performance, it really isn't going to change. Schools will avoid the pitfalls that UNC had out there, but it isn't going to change the practice of funneling certain athletes into "easy" majors and giving them a ton of academic support simply to keep them eligible.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    Don't count on it. Until more people care about classroom performance versus on-court or on-field performance, it really isn't going to change. Schools will avoid the pitfalls that UNC had out there, but it isn't going to change the practice of funneling certain athletes into "easy" majors and giving them a ton of academic support simply to keep them eligible.
    I'm ok with the 'easy' major thing at colleges. If the major / field of study is an approved major the school is offering to its students, no problem (Shalala realized this and that is what helped land Richter and Alvarez at UW). If the athlete needed academic support to get the grades to pass, that is ok too, as long as the student athlete is doing the work and is not having it done for them.

    I think most people realize and accept that premise. What people / fans don't accept is what was going on at UNC, where students didn't go to class / do any work and still recevied high marks.

    So, what will the NCAA do to UNC? What would the NCAA do if it was UNC Wilmington?

  4. #24
    My guess is that the NCAA is going to wait to see what UNC does. But to answer your question, I have no idea what they do. Are they really going to vacate all of their wins and championships? I doubt it. They are going to be criticized by a lot of people no matter what.

  5. #25
    Ol' Roy concerned about his reputation. Too bad he wasn't as concerned about his players' education.
    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...ademic-scandal
    The buck stops here, Roy. Be a man.

    VS

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by ValiantSailor View Post
    Ol' Roy concerned about his reputation. Too bad he wasn't as concerned about his players' education.
    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...ademic-scandal
    The buck stops here, Roy. Be a man.

    VS
    VS - you are in that area of the country, what is the local opinion of this whole thing? I can tell you in a place like Milwaukee, which isn't exactly ACC country, people are talking about it. Of course the assumption is that a basketball coach only has 13 kids to worry about so he must have known something. A football coach with 100 is a little bit different story.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Goose85 View Post
    VS - you are in that area of the country, what is the local opinion of this whole thing? I can tell you in a place like Milwaukee, which isn't exactly ACC country, people are talking about it. Of course the assumption is that a basketball coach only has 13 kids to worry about so he must have known something. A football coach with 100 is a little bit different story.
    Look at the Raleigh newspaper - http://www.newsobserver.com - they have multiple stories every day. I don't know that people are surprised, other than how long it's been going on. Everyone seems to be waiting for the other shoe to drop....

    VS

  8. #28
    The UNC faculty had their say yesterday. They are just as PO'd as everyone else.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/...=/99/100/&rh=1

    VS

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by ValiantSailor View Post
    The UNC faculty had their say yesterday. They are just as PO'd as everyone else.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/...=/99/100/&rh=1

    VS
    I'd bet they are. UNC has a very good academic reputation so they should be PO'd. Makes them all look bad.

  10. #30
    Now a class action suit has been filed which means subpoena power.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/07/us/unc...ml?c=us&page=1

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