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    Changes coaches would like to see

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    If there is a foul, the shot clock is immediately reset to 35 seconds)

    Bill Self (Kansas Jayhawks): “Foul in the frontcourt not reset to 35, only about to 20. I’d also like to see the block-charge made easier to call.”

    Flopping
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    Nebraska coach Tim Miles wants rules implemented to limit flopping.
    This is an area of concern at every level of basketball, especially with last year’s rule change in college basketball limiting the amount of hand checking on the perimeter, thus making it easy to draw fouls by flopping as the offensive player.

    Kevin Stallings (Vanderbilt Commodores): “Intentional attempts at flopping should be assessed with an unsportsmanlike conduct technical foul. That includes the dribbler who throws his head and shoulders back to bait them for a call.”

    Tim Miles (Nebraska Cornhuskers): Flopping -- on both offense and defense.”

    Bruce Weber (Kansas State Wildcats): “Put the jump ball back in the game. Reward defense for effort to create jump ball situation. Also, the new foul rule allows the offensive player to put his head down, get out of control and run over defense and receive a foul call.”

    Tony Bennett (Virginia Cavaliers): “The flagrant foul of elbow above the shoulders.”

    Post play
    Perimeter play was altered last season, but some coaches want post play to be cleaned up

    Scott Drew (Baylor Bears): “They adjusted how they called the perimeter last year. Now they need to address it in the post.”

    Freedom of movement
    Sean Miller (Arizona Wildcats): “When an offensive player pivots and swings the ball high to create space from the defender, it should not be an offensive foul. He has to have the ability to create space for freedom of movement. The way the rule is now, even if there is no contact, they can call a flagrant 1. I also feel that going to a 30-second shot clock would help the quality of the play.”

    Advance the ball to half court in final two minutes
    The ball is now taken out under the basket after a timeout. In the NBA, the ball is advanced to midcourt. ESPN colleague Seth Greenberg feels as though this would allow for more special situations, make time and score far more relevant and create for more exciting finishes.

    Fred Hoiberg (Iowa State Cyclones): “Advance the ball after a timeout in the last two minutes.”

    Charge circle
    The NCAA voted on a 3-foot wide charge circle in college basketball in 2011, but it’s still closer to the basket than the NBA circle

    John Groce (Illinois Fighting Illini): “I would probably say NBA charge circle instead of current college version. I played with it last year against Oregon, and I thought it promoted fewer collisions at the rim. I liked it farther out.”

    Charge call
    Last season, the NCAA amended its block/charge call to where a defensive player is not permitted to move into the path of an offensive player once he has begun his upward motion with the ball.

    Mark Turgeon (Maryland Terrapins): “Take out the airborne player charge.”

    Make the lane wider
    The college lane is just 12 feet wide, while the international and NBA games feature a lane that is 16 feet wide. This is one of the areas in which Greenberg agrees the game can be improved. “By widening the lane, it would open up the floor for more cutting and also help with spacing.”

    Archie Miller (Dayton Flyers): “I’d like to see the lane wider.”

    Mick Cronin (Cincinnati Bearcats): “Width of the lane. That will help clean up the game and open up the court. They have it in Europe and in the NBA. Why not us?”

    Make the court wider
    The court is 94 feet by 50 feet and hasn’t changed.

    Frank Martin (South Carolina Gamecocks): “The court needs to be wider and longer. Players are bigger, stronger and faster. Give everyone more space.”

    Six fouls
    College basketball’s rule is that a player fouls out on his fifth foul

    Thad Matta (Ohio State Buckeyes): “The one that comes to mind for me is going to six fouls.”

    No live timeouts for coaches
    College coaches are allowed to call a timeout while the action is ongoing.

    Mike Brey (Notre Dame Fighting Irish): “Coaches should not be able to call a timeout during a live ball.”

    Shot clock
    Men’s college basketball has used a 35-second shot clock since 1993, and there was a consensus among coaches that this needed to be altered. This was the No. 1 winner for most common answer.

    Josh Pastner (Memphis Tigers): “Change the shot clock to 24 seconds.”

    Rick Pitino (Louisville Cardinals): “It’s a tie for me. Change the shot clock to 30 seconds, and also, if there’s a 4-second call in the backcourt, that’s what you get to advance -- not 10 seconds.”

    Billy Donovan (Florida Gators): “I’d like to see a shorter shot clock or being able to move the ball across half court during the last two minutes.”

    Lon Kruger (Oklahoma Sooners): “Go to a 30-second shot clock.” Shaka Smart (Virginia Commonwealth Rams): “Twenty-four-second shot clock for sure.”

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    I don't like the 24 second shot clock for college, but I'd be ok with 30.

    In the pros 24 seconds is ok because teams really don't full court press, so they generally have close to 20 seconds on the offensive end.
    If there was a 24 second clock in college I think you would see a lot more pressing just to try and limit teams to 15 or 16 seconds to set up and execute offense.

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    I have to hand it to Weber...I haven't heard anyone call for a return to the jump ball. I do hate alternating possession though. I don't understand why it would be so hard to institute the "pick up game" rule whereby the defense gets it.

    I do like the widening of the lane. I would go to the NBA lane instead of the FIBA trapezoid however.

    I know a lot of people don't like the advancing to half court rule a la the NBA, but I like it.

    I am also on board with Brey's idea for no live ball timeouts. But it seems that would have to be a switch made at all levels of basketball instead of just college.

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    I agree with Thad Matta to a point. If the game goes to OT and you haven't already fouled out you get one additional foul - 6 in total. No matter how many OT's though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    I am also on board with Brey's idea for no live ball timeouts. But it seems that would have to be a switch made at all levels of basketball instead of just college.
    Totally agree with this one also - these coaches are control freaks as it is - let the players call the timeouts.

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    Hizzoner's rule changes:

    1. No live ball timeouts. Limit a TO to either at a deadball or immediately after a made basket.
    2. Cut the number of timeouts. There are way too many stoppages in play, especially in the last 2 minutes of a game.
    3. Eliminate the 30 seconds to substitute a player upon someone fouling out. It's used as a free timeout.
    4. Strip the NCAA and conferences of their tax exempt status.

    Thing not to change:
    1. Do NOT move allow the ball to inbounded from halfcourt in the last 2 minutes. The court is 94 feet. If you have to go 94 feet after a made backet during the first 38 minutes, why not the last 2? It's like saying that after football's 2 minute warning, a team takes over at the 50 instead of their own 20 after a touchback "just because." Stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaribouJim View Post
    Totally agree with this one also - these coaches are control freaks as it is - let the players call the timeouts.
    See, I misread what Brey said. I agree with Beluga. No timeouts by anyone except for dead ball situations and after a made basket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MayorBeluga View Post
    Hizzoner's rule changes:


    4. Strip the NCAA and conferences of their tax exempt status.

    Or simply pass a law that says "athletic activity" is unrelated business income and tax schools accordingly.

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    Disagree. Coaches have to be able to call timeouts and why not allow a player who is in trouble call a time out? I don't mind the number allowed being smaller, reason why there are so many stoppages is because of the damn TV timeouts.

    Allowing the team to get the ball at 1/2 court is one of the reasons why I dislike the NBA.

    A agree on the tax exempt change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    See, I misread what Brey said. I agree with Beluga. No timeouts by anyone except for dead ball situations and after a made basket.
    So if a guy is being pressed and starts to panic calling a timeout is not an option? That is not what Brey was saying - at least the way I understood it. In any event, that would be a pretty big change to the game - you would think that teams would be pressing a lot more.

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