Getting Georgetown Into NCAA's

[kneelb4zerg]

That was also when they were in the best basketball conference in the country. They can't even win in this souped up version of CUSA. You don't think recruits notice that stuff??

Next year we will have at least nine underclass men. We don't even have that many available scholarships after that. As usual, you are blowing things way out of proportion.

[MU_Iceman]

But you are the one that actually wants us to be in a worse conference by not wanting other BE teams to succeed.

No...Since MU is stuck in this crap conference I want them to do what they SHOULD do and that's to blow through it. Not finish in the bottom half and get blown out by teams like St. John's. That's what I want. I love how all of you just blow this season off as "it happens". Okay, when's the last time it happened to MU?? When's the last time it happened to Louisville?? When's the last time it happened to UW for cripes sakes. When's the last time it happened to Gonzaga?? or Kansas...should I keep going??

It would be one thing if everyone knew this would be a down year...that happens. But for a team to fall so far below expectations like this one has?? We maybe have ot accept it, but I sure as hell don't like it, and some of you seem to be accepting of it, and okay with it. You should be pissed off, is what you should be.

[MU_Iceman]

Next year we will have at least nine underclass men. We don't even have that many available scholarships after that. As usual, you are blowing things way out of proportion.

Right, so logically they shouldn't be good next year either, but THAT would have been understandable. No one would have expected them to be that good(myself included), but this year?? So that would be likely two straight years without making the NCAAs, if that isn't troublesome to all of you, I don't know what is?? Or have you all quickly forgotten where MU was just a year ago...or the year prior, or the year prior or...you get my point. Once is an accident...twice is a mistake..three times a trend.

[TheSultan]

No...Since MU is stuck in this crap conference I want them to do what they SHOULD do and that's to blow through it. Not finish in the bottom half and get blown out by teams like St. John's. That's what I want. I

No? You just said up above that you didn't want Georgetown to beat MSU. You don't want Villanova to succeed. Don't you understand that you should want Marquette to finish win a conference where every other conference team wins every single non-conference game? Seriously, stop complaining about a "crap conference" when what you seemingly want is every other conference members to fail. That's what creates a "crap conference."

You come off as just a random angry dude. No logic whatsoever.

[MU_Iceman]

No? You just said up above that you didn't want Georgetown to beat MSU. You don't want Villanova to succeed. Don't you understand that you should want Marquette to finish win a conference where every other conference team wins every single non-conference game? Seriously, stop complaining about a "crap conference" when what you seemingly want is every other conference members to fail. That's what creates a "crap conference."

You come off as just a random angry dude. No logic whatsoever.

It's a crap conference regardless of how these teams do in the non conference. That's not going to change. Again, since it is a crap conference, I'd be fine with it, IF MU would be doing what they are supposed to be doing. The fact that teams that were supposed to finish below MU this year(and that would be 9 of them), are all for the most part doing what MU is supposed to be doing only makes MU look worse. The ONLY solace I took in their move to this new conference was that i figured conference championships(like Memphis) would be a yearly occurrence. And you hear no one talk about how tough the BE is. Why?? Honestly a lot of that probably has to do with the conference's predicted champion(consensus), is struggling so bad. That doesn't at all help their perception. Especially in year one. MU was supposed to carry the torch. And they haven't struggled because the other teams have just all been so good, they have struggled because they have just been awful. Period.

[TheSultan]

It's a crap conference regardless of how these teams do in the non conference. That's not going to change.

That is absolutely false. If other teams beat top ranked teams...make final fours...win championships. That's what makes good conferences. What do you think made the BE that Marquette joined? Georgetown...Villanova...St. Johns...

[MU_Iceman]

Let's put it this way...I LOVED college BB, I lived for it...until all this conference switching and the effect it had on MU ruined it for me. You are talking about a guy that hasn't missed a second of MU hoops in probably 25 years or more. I have been a season ticket holder for 10 years, and I have not gone to more games this year than I missed in the previous nine years(which was one...weather related). I planned my schedules/life around MU games, not the other way around. I'd eat it, breathe it and sleep it. Big Mondays?? I'd always watch that...Georgetown vs. Cuse, UCONN vs. Pitt, hell yeah!! I have watched very few minutes of other BE games this year. Not too mention have shut off MU games early and even missed Saturday's game entirely. The desire is gone...yes, it has to do with their struggles, but to be honest, a good majority of it is...I just can't get excited about watching Creighton vs. Xavier and wrapping my head around the fact those are the programs MU is now associated with. It's ruined college BB for me. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way...I will bet ANYTHING MU's attendance has taken a significant drop this year from where it has been. A lot of that is the opponents they now play. That's just reality.

[MU_Iceman]

That is absolutely false. If other teams beat top ranked teams...make final fours...win championships. That's what makes good conferences. What do you think made the BE that Marquette joined? Georgetown...Villanova...St. Johns...

I absolutely agree and that's what I have been saying...but if you honestly think any of the schools in the current BE will ever be a legitimate national Title contender, at least in the forseeable future, I want some of what you're smoking. They'll have teams ranked highly sometimes, and they will win some big games in the non conference, but to be a legitimate National title contender, or too have one most years like the old BE did, or like the ACC does, or the BigXII, or Big ten?? Just not realistic. Sustained success more than anything is what makes a good conference. The old BE had that amongst it's core group of teams(and yes that included MU). There was always National title contenders amongst them every year. This BE?? Maybe even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile, but for them to sustain it?? Not a chance in hell.

[Markedman]

If the conference is so crappy then why do 5 of the 10 schools have top 25 recruiting classes for next year? I mean good players don't want to play in crappy conferences right? http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Bas...teTeamRankings

[warriorfan4life]

Iceman, I just don't know what to tell you. I would like to eight figures tax free dropped into my checking account tomorrow, but that's not going to happen either. So I can't just waste my time worrying about it.

Would I like Marquette to be a basketball only member in the ACC? Yes. Is it going to happen. Likely not. So why can't I be satisfied with Marquette doing the best it possibly can within the parameters in which it operates?

I have always been Mr. Big East, but I honestly prefer this league to the ACC. The ACC will likely be better most years, though their top programs all have coaches right near the end of their lines (I'd rate them equal this year). Meanwhile, our top four programs (MU, Nova, G-Town, X) all have coaches who are in their 40's and should be at their fellow schools for a long time. Also, I think we are competing on equal and fair ground against our fellow league mates (and that would not be true with many ACC programs and their shall we say "interesting" recruiting methods). This will consistently be a top 5 league, often a top 3-4 league, and it is where Marquette belongs. Also, I will pull the alum card here in that I love being aligned with this group of schools as an alum. This version of the Big East is Marquette's true calling for both athletic and academic alignment.