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    Derrick, Part 3,000

    IWB made an interesting point after the X game stating that Derrick performs his primary responsibility of not turning it over well. True. Fact is, we still turn the ball over a considerable amount when he is on the floor, which is largely overlooked by those defending DW's low turnover rate. While he doesn't turn the ball over directly, I believe indirectly, his presence and lack of offensive creation/playmaking/shooting talent leads to a good percentage of our overall turnovers. Lesser ball handlers are consistently forced to create on their own off the dribble into an oversaturated lane coupled with the constant double teams on everyone not named DW attacking the basket in one form or another. On top of this, I believe DW alone costs us 5-10 post points per game due to his man sagging into the paint on every possession.

    I'm not saying some combination of John Dawson, Jake Thomas, or Todd Mayo manning the primary point guard responsibilities is a better option, however, I will say that I believe in a season where we can all acknowledge that staying with DW will likely take us to the NIT, what is there to lose at this point? Yes, we are spoiled. That said, Buzz owes it to the seniors and the fans to consistently put the best team on the floor. At the end of the day, I'm just afraid that we'll have to hear Buzz say at some point that this is the year that taught him lessons about "loyalty" to his guys. Derrick is not a high major point guard. Time to move on or drown in stubborness.

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    Oh goody. Another thread to bash Derrick. As if we did not have enough already.

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    Perhaps in the spirit of a good message board, instead of being an arrogant J/A, you could simply respond to the the points that were made. I realize that expectation may be a bit lofty for you, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbovetheRim View Post
    Perhaps in the spirit of a good message board, instead of being an arrogant J/A, you could simply respond to the the points that were made. I realize that expectation may be a bit lofty for you, though.
    Speaking of J/A's, your initial post falls right in line with that. I just called it as I saw it. If you are offended that I thought you were a J/A, well, so be it, you were and are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUMac View Post
    Speaking of J/A's, your initial post falls right in line with that. I just called it as I saw it. If you are offended that I thought you were a J/A, well, so be it, you were and are.
    You still haven't responded to the initial post in a meaninful manner and have attempted to hijack the thread as well. That seems to be a strength of yours. By my count, that makes 1 strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbovetheRim View Post
    Perhaps in the spirit of a good message board, instead of being an arrogant J/A, you could simply respond to the the points that were made. I realize that expectation may be a bit lofty for you, though.
    I think he did. And the point was you could have. Posted this in any of the other threads instead of starting yet another one.
    "I'll say it again...Dwyane Wade is the 3rd best SG of all-time...right behind Jordan and Bryant." - Mark Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbiflyer View Post
    I think he did. And the point was you could have. Posted this in any of the other threads instead of starting yet another one.
    Ding, ding, ding, ding ... we have a winner. Sorry abovetherirm that comprehension missed you in school, that could have been your one strength. Yeah, this is snarky, but after the snark you have laid out there, it is deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbovetheRim View Post
    IWB made an interesting point after the X game stating that Derrick performs his primary responsibility of not turning it over well. True. Fact is, we still turn the ball over a considerable amount when he is on the floor, which is largely overlooked by those defending DW's low turnover rate. While he doesn't turn the ball over directly, I believe indirectly, his presence and lack of offensive creation/playmaking/shooting talent leads to a good percentage of our overall turnovers.

    So now Derrick is to blame for the turnovers that other players make?

    Good lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    So now Derrick is to blame for the turnovers that other players make?

    Good lord.
    Did I say that? Please reread the paragraph you felt the need to highlight, look up the word "indirectly," and get back bud.

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    I read it. That's exactly what you said. Derrick's presence on the floor causes other people to turn the ball over. I think that's is a reach. A big one.

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