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Thread: Dave Cooks out as coach at Marquette High

  1. #11
    As I am Hilltopper alum, this is the one and only Buzz rumor i'd be ok hearing

  2. #12
    DSHA is in the same position as MUHS, and the Dashers have had consistent success the past several years. No reason MUHS can not improve its standing in hoops.

  3. #13
    MUHS has been underachieving for years.

  4. #14
    Cooks has an incredible personal story but is not a very good coach in my view. I know there have been many POd parents over the years. Some of it was unwarranted, assuredly, since parents are way too involved. Otoh there were too many complaints and not enough success.

  5. #15
    MUHS faces numerous obstacles as it tries to compete with the Dominicans, WISCO's and larger public high schools so it will be a tough road to get back to the top.These obstacles include:

    1. Rigorous academics for all (don't let these other schools kid you about who is doing college prep work and who isn't -- they have college prep tracks for their kids, but MUHS makes all of their kids take that track)

    2. "Feeder" programs from Bay, Falls, Germantown, etc. don't let kids out of them (many have been playing with the same kids since 3rd grade)

    3. Diminishing enrollment at Catholic grade schools (which provide MUHS with the bulk of their enrollment); most kids are going to their local public schools and don't want to leave their friends; there aren't that many great athletes at these schools (there are some - but not as many as in the public schools)

    4. A cost of around $13,000 a year when you pay for everything (including books and meals)

    So, it takes a special type of student-athlete to want to do this -- especially when their friends are hanging out every night and having fun while the MUHS kids are getting their butts handed to them in school.

    What MUHS has returning for HOOPS next year is a decent group of kids...with a nice JV team....and a few good freshmen......they will compete, but it will be tough to be elite again.
    Last edited by eddiedswang; 04-09-2013 at 08:57 AM.

  6. #16
    Yes, times have changed. Tuition was $225 when I was a frosh in 60-61 ( though it did go up to $325 by the time I was a senior ). The academics were always there. The big factors are # 2 and # 3. Again, sign of the times.

  7. #17
    Where did MUHS pull their students from "back in the day?" Milwaukee? Inner suburbs like Tosa? How does it differ now?

  8. #18
    For Mark Miller or any one else who has watched MUHS. How good is Andre Goode's son? Potential D1 kid?

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    Where did MUHS pull their students from "back in the day?" Milwaukee? Inner suburbs like Tosa? How does it differ now?
    Obviously, things change over the decades. In the 1960s (when MUHS was very good in both BB and FB ), most of the kids came from the North Shore suburbs, St. Sebastian's , Christ King, St. Mary's of Elm Grove, St. Catherine's, some from the South Side, etc. Virtually all attended Catholic grade schools.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by eddiedswang View Post
    MUHS faces numerous obstacles as it tries to compete with the Dominicans, WISCO's and larger public high schools so it will be a tough road to get back to the top.These obstacles include:

    1. Rigorous academics for all (don't let these other schools kid you about who is doing college prep work and who isn't -- they have college prep tracks for their kids, but MUHS makes all of their kids take that track)

    2. "Feeder" programs from Bay, Falls, Germantown, etc. don't let kids out of them (many have been playing with the same kids since 3rd grade)

    3. Diminishing enrollment at Catholic grade schools (which provide MUHS with the bulk of their enrollment); most kids are going to their local public schools and don't want to leave their friends; there aren't that many great athletes at these schools (there are some - but not as many as in the public schools)

    4. A cost of around $13,000 a year when you pay for everything (including books and meals)

    So, it takes a special type of student-athlete to want to do this -- especially when their friends are hanging out every night and having fun while the MUHS kids are getting their butts handed to them in school.

    What MUHS has returning for HOOPS next year is a decent group of kids...with a nice JV team....and a few good freshmen......they will compete, but it will be tough to be elite again.
    Welcome back EddieD!

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