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    I wonder if those bashing Jeter's performance over the years will be excited about Billeter? Here are his conference finishes since 2003-04:

    8th, 7th, 5th, 5th, 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 3rd, t-4th, 3rd, t-9th, t-1st.

    Wasn't one of the major arguments in favor of the firing that Jeter could not dominate the conference and finish in the top 3 consistently? Not that I am trashing Tom in any way, here....it's just interesting to me that this record would make a coach desirable when it is very similar to me to the one of the coach we just fired, except that the fired coach was at the D1 level already (and thus had stiffer competition).

    After hearing so much made of meeting goals of "Top 3 in Conference" and "Top 100", I would think a stronger track record would be required of the replacement. Or maybe all that talk from Braun was BS to start with.....nah...that can't be the case at all, can it?

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    I actually did a little analysis of my own with conference finishes since 2005-06.
    If schools finished with the same conference record, I didn't bother to dig deeper to look at head-to-head matchups to see who technically finished ahead of who in the standings. Gave both schools credit for finishing in that spot.

    Team 05-06 06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11 11-12 12-13 13-14 14-15 15-16 AVG
    Butler 2 1 1 1 1 1 3 1.43
    Valparaiso 4 9 4 4 1 1 4 1 1 3.22
    Oakland 5 3 2 3.33
    Green Bay 3 4 4 2 3 7 6 3 1 2 4 3.55
    Wright State 3 1 2 3 2 5 8 3 3 8 2 3.64
    Milwaukee 1 7 4 5 4 1 3 9 5 5 5 4.45
    Cleveland State 8 9 2 3 4 1 2 7 2 3 9 4.55
    Detroit 3 7 10 10 7 5 3 2 7 6 6 6.00
    UIC 3 4 4 6 9 9 9 5 9 7 10 6.82
    Loyola 3 3 8 8 8 8 10 7 6.88
    Youngstown State 9 4 9 6 10 9 6 5 7 9 7 7.36
    Northern Kentucky 8 8.00

  3. #13
    Thanks for putting that together, Hart! Again, I think that it's plain to see that based on these numbers, the school should move on from Jeter. I just worry that the program is going to get the same level of support that it did under Jeter - that's a recipe for the same.

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    Man, when you look at that table, it really gives you a big picture of how Youngstown and UIC drag this conference down.

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    Jeter is gone and we move on. Whoever we hire, clearly knows the AD stance on finishing and RPI. So the goals are out there and said as much. Now, whoever gets hired, needs to deliver, I play the same rule with any coaching change, you get 3 years. Year 1, you come in, not your players and your system. Year 2, you have some players and the team knows the system, Year 3, all of your players and the system is in place.

    If after year 3 or 4, we havent finished top 3, or top 100 RPI, then they need to go, IF, Amanda is still AD.

  6. #16
    My serious problem with the Top 100 RPI thing is that it is not possible in this conference on a year to year basis. In the A-10, this would essentially take care of itself.
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  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Bruce View Post
    My serious problem with the Top 100 RPI thing is that it is not possible in this conference on a year to year basis. In the A-10, this would essentially take care of itself.
    THIS is what makes the decisions by Braun and more Bob Grant so frustrating. You want to be the best? Great. Go be the best. But be the best by supporting your program. The best way to do that, at this point, is by finding a better conference. The Horizon League was leapfrogged by the Summit League of all conferences - that's right, the same Summit League that we've all pointed and laughed at for 20 years. This conference isn't the same league it was 5-7 years ago, or even 10-12 years ago.

    We need to win, most definitely, but you're only hurting the program when you hamstring the basketball budget, vote for things like this ridiculous HLT and allow rugrats like NKU in the conference when the obvious anchor that is YSU remains.

    Get the net, Braun.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by jhart05 View Post
    They were on ESPN last night. DVR'd the game. Saw they won big so are moving on to the Championship game Saturday, 2pm, CBS.
    You mean CBSSN it was on last night?
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    That's kind of what I think about the "100 RPI" thing.

    Plus being in a Mid-Major Conference does that really even matter for getting into the Tourney? The committee seems to say "no" by their actions.

    Ask Valpo if they think RPI matters anymore. Or even St. Mary's. I wouldn't call the West Coast a true mid-major conference, but I guess they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MU/Panther View Post
    You mean CBSSN it was on last night?
    I don't know, maybe. Don't really look at the channel, just hit the record button.

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