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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Marquette View Post
    Then compare it to what Buzz had at Virginia Tech. He had nothing there and picked up 1 top 100 recruit. This year he has been without 2 of his best players and finished in the top half of the best conference in the country with a 10-8 record.
    Bingo

    I understand the want to write in reasons people should be patient, but let's not act as if other coach's have done more with less.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Marquette View Post
    Then compare it to what Buzz had at Virginia Tech. He had nothing there and picked up 1 top 100 recruit. This year he has been without 2 of his best players and finished in the top half of the best conference in the country with a 10-8 record.

    Cmon.

    Virginia Tech went 19-13 (10-8) and had an RPI of 84.
    Marquette went 20-13 (8-10) and had an RPI of about 100.

    So let's not act like Buzz weaved some sort of magic this year. Virginia Tech had a marginally better season than Marquette did. And sure, Buzz is a better coach than Wojo. He should be. He has more experience.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    Cmon.

    Virginia Tech went 19-13 (10-8) and had an RPI of 84.
    Marquette went 20-13 (8-10) and had an RPI of about 100.

    So let's not act like Buzz weaved some sort of magic this year. Virginia Tech had a marginally better season than Marquette did. And sure, Buzz is a better coach than Wojo. He should be. He has more experience.
    He also had a vastly more experienced team.
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  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by MKE_GoldenEagleFan View Post
    He also had a vastly more experienced team.
    As I've said before, next year we will have an experienced team, so we won't be able to use the inexperience tag with the group.

    Seniors in Luke and JJ
    4th year juniors in Wilson and Rowsey
    5th year senior in Wally
    Junior with experience in Sandy
    Sophs Carter, Cheatham who have been starters
    Only one frosh at this point in Hauser.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by MKE_GoldenEagleFan View Post
    He also had a vastly more experienced team.
    Did he really? Remember we are talking about turning around a program not one year.

    Virginia Tech
    Zach LeDay 15.1ppg - Junior - transferred in, sat out last year.
    Seth Allen 14.6 ppg - Junior - transferred in, sat out last year.
    Justin Bibbs 12.1 ppg - Sophomore
    Chris Clarke 8.5 ppg - Freshman
    Jalen Hudson 7.9 ppg - Sophomore
    Justin Robinson 7.6 ppg - Freshman
    Kerry Blackshear 6.1 ppg - Freshman

    And two of his best in Hill and Outlaw were out all year.

    Marquette
    Henry Ellenson 17 ppg - Freshman
    Luke Fischer 12.1 ppg - Junior
    Haanif Cheatham 11.8 ppg - Freshman
    Duane Wilson 11.6 ppg - RS Sophomore
    Jujuan Johnson 10.2 ppg - Junior
    Sandy Cohen 5.9 ppg - Sophomore
    Tracy Carter 5.4 ppg - Freshman


    Now you guys are telling me Buzz's players had more experience?

    Viginia Tech - None of their top 7 players were there when Buzz arrived and none were top 100.
    2 Juniors, 2 Sophomores, 3 Freshmen

    Marquette - Two of their top 7 players were here when Wojo arrived, another was committed. One McDonald's AA and all others are top 100 players.
    2 Juniors, 2 sophomores, 3 Freshmen

    Last night they showed the graphic with Marquette as the 8th youngest team in nation, where was Va Tech on that list? Don't tell me Buzz had a "vastly more experienced team".

    Also finishing 10-8 and in the top half of the ACC is more than 'marginally better' than finishing 8-10 in the bottom half of the Big East.
    Last edited by Marquette; 03-11-2016 at 10:58 AM.

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    The ACC argument is meaningless because the schedule is unbalanced. They beat only 2 of the ranked teams in conference - VA and Miami both at home. Their wins were against some really average teams at best. Given that, could they have done well in a BE with a balanced schedule. I'd argue that they'd do no better than we did.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Marquette View Post
    Did he really? Remember we are talking about turning around a program not one year.

    Virginia Tech
    Zach LeDay 15.1ppg - Junior - transferred in, sat out last year.
    Seth Allen 14.6 ppg - Junior - transferred in, sat out last year.
    Justin Bibbs 12.1 ppg - Sophomore
    Chris Clarke 8.5 ppg - Freshman
    Jalen Hudson 7.9 ppg - Sophomore
    Justin Robinson 7.6 ppg - Freshman
    Kerry Blackshear 6.1 ppg - Freshman

    And two of his best in Hill and Outlaw were out all year.

    Marquette
    Henry Ellenson 17 ppg - Freshman
    Luke Fischer 12.1 ppg - Junior
    Haanif Cheatham 11.8 ppg - Freshman
    Duane Wilson 11.6 ppg - RS Sophomore
    Jujuan Johnson 10.2 ppg - Junior
    Sandy Cohen 5.9 ppg - Sophomore
    Tracy Carter 5.4 ppg - Freshman


    Now you guys are telling me Buzz's players had more experience?

    Viginia Tech - None of their top 7 players were there when Buzz arrived and none were top 100.
    [B]2 Juniors, 2 Sophomores, 3 Freshmen[/B]

    Marquette - Two of their top 7 players were here when Wojo arrived, another was committed. One McDonald's AA and all others are top 100 players.
    2 Juniors, 2 sophomores, 3 Freshmen

    Last night they showed the graphic with Marquette as the 8th youngest team in nation, where was Va Tech on that list? Don't tell me Buzz had a "vastly more experienced team".

    Also finishing 10-8 and in the top half of the ACC is more than 'marginally better' than finishing 8-10 in the bottom half of the Big East.
    Actually those juniors are 4th year players.
    Last edited by Nukem2; 03-11-2016 at 03:10 PM.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Nukem2 View Post
    Actually those juniors are 5th year players.
    And those 2 are VT's leading scorers and one is the leading rebounder.

  9. #69
    Fine we'll mark those two as seniors and bump Duane up to a junior.

    Marquette still has 1 McD and 6 top 100 while Virginia Tech has zero and zero.

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