2017 rsci

Tillman at #87.

Cain at #95.

https://sites.google.com/site/rscihoops/2017-summer

The rest of the Big East commitments:

41. Jermaine Samuels-Villanova
57. Naji Marshall-Xavier
66. Zach Brown-St. John's
75. Mitchell Ballock-Creighton
76. Myles Cale-Seton Hall
78. Ty-Shon Alexander-Creighton
80. Nate Watson-Providence
82. Dhamir-Cosby Roundtree-Villanova
98. Christian David-Butler

That is exactly the kind of class the BE needs to land - 11 Top 100 so far and hopefully still counting.

It's not necessarily that any Top 100 kid will end up being significantly better or even marginally better than kids not in the Top 100. As we know, that is definitely not always the case.

What matters is perception. If other top high school players see that some highly-ranked players are choosing BE schools, then presents the image of the conference being a power conference. Top 100 kids not only want to play with other top players; they also want to play against quality competition.

Still, it is interesting that BE programs rarely get Top 20 players, let alone Top 10. Henry was an exception last year as was Brunson. Notice that the top-rated recruit in this class that picked a BE school is #41, and he picked Nova. No one else is in the Top 50.

What is also nice to see is that it is not just Nova, MU, and GTown getting Top 100 kids as it was a few years ago. In fact, GTown doesn't have anyone -at least not yet - on this list. But eight of the 10 BE schools have landed at least one - the exceptions being the Hoyas and DePaul. I doubt any other conference can claim that 80% of its schools landed a Top 100 recruit.

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Originally Posted by Phantom Warrior

That is exactly the kind of class the BE needs to land - 11 Top 100 so far and hopefully still counting.

It's not necessarily that any Top 100 kid will end up being significantly better or even marginally better than kids not in the Top 100. As we know, that is definitely not always the case.

What matters is perception. If other top high school players see that some highly-ranked players are choosing BE schools, then presents the image of the conference being a power conference. Top 100 kids not only want to play with other top players; they also want to play against quality competition.

Still, it is interesting that BE programs rarely get Top 20 players, let alone Top 10. Henry was an exception last year as was Brunson. Notice that the top-rated recruit in this class that picked a BE school is #41, and he picked Nova. No one else is in the Top 50.

What is also nice to see is that it is not just Nova, MU, and GTown getting Top 100 kids as it was a few years ago. In fact, GTown doesn't have anyone -at least not yet - on this list. But eight of the 10 BE schools have landed at least one - the exceptions being the Hoyas and DePaul. I doubt any other conference can claim that 80% of its schools landed a Top 100 recruit.

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College recruits care about a couple things...where their buddies are going, relationship with staff and players, amenities on campus, weather, opportunity and winning. The image portrayed by some arbitrary rankings system falls very low on the list of criteria for a recruit mostly because they know who the good players are as they've played against them in getting to this level. I don't understand why some continue to overstate the importance of rankings.

A Big East member just won the NC. Again, a BE school was just crowned king. It's time for some to stop worrying about the perception of the BE conference and start plugging into reality. This is a major conference and everyone will continue to acknowledge that, especially if teams keep making deep tourney runs.

A Big East member just won the NC. Again, a BE school was just crowned king.

True, but UConn won the national title a few years ago. Did that make the AAC a "power conference"? No.

Look at the current RSCI list. How many of the 51 recruits who have committed chose an AAC program? One! And that kid is going to UConn.

Look at the difference between the A-10 and the BE. The A-10 also has only one recruit who has selected a program from that conference.

I also think that kids pay quite a bit of attention to the rankings - more than we fans do. They know who is ranked and who isn't.

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A Big East member just won the NC. Again, a BE school was just crowned king.

True, but UConn won the national title a few years ago. Did that make the AAC a "power conference"? No.

Look at the current RSCI list. How many of the 51 recruits who have committed chose an AAC program? One! And that kid is going to UConn.

Look at the difference between the A-10 and the BE. The A-10 also has only one recruit who has selected a program from that conference.

I also think that kids pay quite a bit of attention to the rankings - more than we fans do. They know who is ranked and who isn't.

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I don't believe anyone that watches more than 5 minutes of college basketball in a given year ever would have confused the AAC as a power conference. I'm not sure why you cherry pick literally the worst example available to support your argument.

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Originally Posted by Phantom Warrior

That is exactly the kind of class the BE needs to land - 11 Top 100 so far and hopefully still counting.

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Just pointing out that out of those top 100, only 51 have committed so far, so a long way to go yet.

Biggest surprise? Western Kentucky with new head coach Rick Stansbury landing #6 and #52.

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Originally Posted by warriorfan4life

The rest of the Big East commitments:

41. Jermaine Samuels-Villanova
57. Naji Marshall-Xavier
66. Zach Brown-St. John's
75. Mitchell Ballock-Creighton
76. Myles Cale-Seton Hall
78. Ty-Shon Alexander-Creighton
80. Nate Watson-Providence
82. Dhamir-Cosby Roundtree-Villanova
98. Christian David-Butler

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What I like thus far about the commits, is that 80% of the schools in the Big East have landed top 100 talent thus far, with just Georgetown and DePaul with no top 100 RSCI commits.

That bodes well for the depth of the conference. While other conferences will certainly land more top 100 kids, in part because they have more teams, it is often just a few schools that land those top 100 commits.