Butler Thread

Jones is going to,be a load in this game.

Wojo not at all pleased with that foul call.

Dumb technical regardless.

Someone has to clean up after Fischer gets those blocks!

Let the "no derrick" lineup play a little more wojo...please

No problem with the offense. Defense can't get stops or play without fouling.

I know he scored 30 against us but how good is this chrabasz (sp?) because this Butler team doesn't impress me thst much without him.

Not a good half for Wojo:

-bad technical foul, he needs to chill out
-with steve at the 5, you can't play Sandy at the 4. Even with Juan having 2 fouls, if you are going to give Luke a break, you have to put Juan at the 4 even with the 2 fouls
-how do you have Derrick Wilson in for the last possession coming out of a timeout knowing we have zero need for defense.

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Originally Posted by WindyCityGoldenEagle

Not a good half for Wojo:

-bad technical foul, he needs to chill out
-with steve at the 5, you can't play Sandy at the 4. Even with Juan having 2 fouls, if you are going to give Luke a break, you have to put Juan at the 4 even with the 2 fouls
-how do you have Derrick Wilson in for the last possession coming out of a timeout knowing we have zero need for defense.

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Derrick was on the floor because we have zero need for a turnover.

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Originally Posted by Mark Miller

Derrick was on the floor because we have zero need for a turnover.

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I disagree Mark - that's called playing scared. That's a play to not lose strategy, not a play to win strategy. It's one possession where we need creativity and offense...zero need for Derrick there.

Maybe I'm drinking the kool-aide but I really think Luke is going to go down as one of the best big men to play at Marq. He seems to be improving game by game.

brutal and pivotal call against Luke for his 3rd foul

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Originally Posted by WindyCityGoldenEagle

Not a good half for Wojo:

-bad technical foul, he needs to chill out
-with steve at the 5, you can't play Sandy at the 4. Even with Juan having 2 fouls, if you are going to give Luke a break, you have to put Juan at the 4 even with the 2 fouls
-how do you have Derrick Wilson in for the last possession coming out of a timeout knowing we have zero need for defense.

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Not sure that I agree. A couple of reasons. It looked to me that the players were getting frustrated with the calls. Right before the T was called, JJ turned to the ref and was barking. FS1 cut away to a previous timeout with Wojo instructing the team. When I heard the whistle, my first thought was it was on JJ. Wojo may have seen that and got it himself instead.

Secondly, he was showing his team that he is standing up for them. Again, they were getting frustrated with the calls. He has their back.

They were on a little run, Duane just cut it to 3. You don't take a technical there.

I dont have a problem with getting a tech, just didn't think it was necessary there. Shouldve saved it for Luke's 3rd foul :)

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Originally Posted by TheSultan

They were on a little run, Duane just cut it to 3. You don't take a technical there.

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As I said, when it was called I thought it was on JJ. It may have been a bad one or he may have saved JJ. I don't know which it was and I know that you do not either.

Killer sequence there... Derrick loses Durham off the inbound and then a bad forced drive by Duane. Too many mental errors

Bad move by Derrick not to go to the basket with the Cohen pass.

Duane has to stop going into the lane as they aren't going to call fouls.

JaJuan has a difficult time determining good shot selection.

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Originally Posted by Mark Miller

JaJuan has a difficult time determining good shot selection.

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agreed, but his main issue is on the other end of the floor. Has zero understading of defensive concepts.

Tough half for Duane

Wojo has talked about this all season, but this team doesn't talk. Too many times this year we have had guys running into screens. Frustrating to watch and dangerous as well.

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Originally Posted by RJax55

Tough half for Duane

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Tough season for everybody.

I think I know a little about basketball. Wideman set 4 illegal picks in the same posession and no foul called. These refs let the game get out of hand.

Men against boys

This is just so sad. We are back to Crean's first season. There is soooo much talent on this team but just can't put it together. This turnaround is going to take longer than I had thought.

We need a Kellen Dunham on our team. A 6'6 dead eye shooter would be perfect for us.

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Originally Posted by IrwinFletcher

This is just so sad. We are back to Crean's first season. There is soooo much talent on this team but just can't put it together. This turnaround is going to take longer than I had thought.

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Not that much talent and definitely not the right mix. Tired of MU fans trying to overinflate the talent level.

I don't think there is "so" much talent at all. We have a few pieces in Luke and Duane.....JJ is hot or terrible....Sandy is a freshman who plays like 1......Need a major talent infusion(and size and toughness)...it should start next year

I think we'll be a tournament team next year.

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Originally Posted by TedBaxter

Not that much talent and definitely not the right mix. Tired of MU fans trying to overinflate the talent level.

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Well then, we need to cease discussions on recruiting and the associated rankings. Are you saying Duane isn't talented? Luke isn't talented? JJJ isn't talented? Taylor? Carlino?

Unfortunately it's looking more and more like we are 2 years away from truly being competitive. Too many holes need to be filled.

Fischer is pissed. Backed Wideman all the way out behind the basket.

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Originally Posted by Mucrisco

I think we'll be a tournament team next year.

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We need to get much more physical for that to happen. And, we lose the one guy (Derrick) who brings that element.

Need to get a lot tougher. Need to rebound so much better. Need to shoot better. Just a long way to go.

I don't think we're that far away guys. Our problem right now is scoring. Take a Derrick out of the lineup and insert Ellenson. That alone helps out the offense so much. It frees up guys like Fischer and Duane. It gives them more space and time to operate. A guy like Cohen will have more time to shoot. We just need that shooter.

Marquette needs a guy like Wideman. Physical, tough.

It's funny how different people can look at the same thing and see things so differently.....if I'm being honest I think we are the least talented team in the conference.....which is the major reason why we are in last place.

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Originally Posted by RJax55

We need to get much more physical for that to happen. And, we lose the one guy (Derrick) who brings that element.

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Meh. You lose Derrick and you add Ellenson and that length alone is going to keep more teams out of the paint.

I just don't think the pieces fit yet.