Big East Offseason Thread

His name has been mentioned but it quickly dies when he lets it known he isn't going anywhere. Philly is home for him.

I think the only flaw for Wright is he has had quite a few early outs in the NCAA tourney even as a high seed.

DePaul released their non-conference schedule today:

v Western Michigan
@ Penn State
v South Carolina (Neutral)
v FSU/Hofstra (Neutral)
v Indiana State/Norfolk State/Ohio/Tulsa (Neutral)
@ UIC
v Chicago State
@ Drake
v UALR
@ Stanford
v Northwestern
v George Washington

12 games, 4 true road games, 3 neutral court. Pretty solid schedule for them.

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Originally Posted by Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

DePaul released their non-conference schedule today:

v Western Michigan
@ Penn State
v South Carolina (Neutral)
v FSU/Hofstra (Neutral)
v Indiana State/Norfolk State/Ohio/Tulsa (Neutral)
@ UIC
v Chicago State
@ Drake
v UALR
@ Stanford
v Northwestern
v George Washington

12 games, 4 true road games, 3 neutral court. Pretty solid schedule for them.

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That's a really good schedule. Good balance, no awful-bottom RPI type teams except Chicago State but at least that's a intracity opponent. No huge home game, but solid ones.

I wish Marquette would put out their non-conference schedule. :(

Not so sure I view that as a decent non-conference schedule. Is there one team on that schedule that will likely be a Top 25 team? The two Big 14 teams are likely lower half of their league. Not sure about Stanford and South Carolina.

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Originally Posted by Phantom Warrior

Not so sure I view that as a decent non-conference schedule. Is there one team on that schedule that will likely be a Top 25 team? The two Big 14 teams are likely lower half of their league. Not sure about Stanford and South Carolina.

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Exactly why it's a good schedule. The best schedules minimize the number of top 25 and sub 250 opponents while stocking up on the teams in the middle. Less risk of defeat with the quality opponents outside the top 25, and less risk of RPI hits with teams that are on the basement.

I really wish Marquette would schedule like that. Make the marquee opponents second tier teams, but don't bring in the SWAC teams for the automatic wins, they usually hurt more than they help.

Sneaky Mullin :D

Zach Braziller ‏@NYPost_Brazille 1h1 hour ago Bronx, NY

Hearing third #sjubb assistant likely won't be done until after July live recruiting period. However, they will have four people on road.

In summary, Purnell and his staff were a bunch of hacks.

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/spor...071315aaa.html

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In summary, Purnell and his staff were a bunch of hacks.

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/spor...071315aaa.html

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It would be great for the Big East if DePaul put a competitive team on the floor.

It has been no fun playing them in recent years when a loss to them could spell a real hit to post-season chances and a win do little for our RPI.

And Wojo has already demonstrated he can recruit almost no matter the competition.

Did we really need an article to confirm what we had seen on the floor?

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In summary, Purnell and his staff were a bunch of hacks.

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/spor...071315aaa.html

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Did we really need an article to confirm what we had seen on the floor?

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Haha, definitely not!

St Johns missed on Rowan...

@EvanDaniels: Maverick Rowan has committed to North Carolina State. He finished his necessary coursework to reclassify to 2015 on Friday.

Nice get for Xavier

@JonRothstein: BREAKING: 2016 PG Quentin Goodin has committed to Xavier, source told @CBSSports. Top-100 player.

Interesting stat noted by Dick Vitale in his Roundball Chatter: Xavier has had a record of .500 or better in conference play for 33 straight years ( MCC/A10/BE). That's amazing.

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Originally Posted by Nukem2

Interesting stat noted by Dick Vitale in his Roundball Chatter: Xavier has had a record of .500 or better in conference play for 33 straight years ( MCC/A10/BE). That's amazing.

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....and their recent record in the NCAA's, although no FF's, is pretty impressive as well, at least from a consistency standpoint. Great addition to the BE.

That is what is pretty surprising, a lot of folks were really excited to add Creighton because they had McDermott, but when you look at their tournament history it really leaves a lot to be desired, Xavier and Butler were by far the better adds.

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Originally Posted by Nukem2

Interesting stat noted by Dick Vitale in his Roundball Chatter: Xavier has had a record of .500 or better in conference play for 33 straight years ( MCC/A10/BE). That's amazing.

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Which is a longer streak than Duke, Kansas, Kentucky and North Carolina.

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Originally Posted by MKE_GoldenEagleFan

That is what is pretty surprising, a lot of folks were really excited to add Creighton because they had McDermott, but when you look at their tournament history it really leaves a lot to be desired, Xavier and Butler were by far the better adds.

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Very happy with all three additions and they easily outpace some of the ołd members like DePaul and Seton Hall. With Creighton's fan support, they will not put up with many 4-14 conference records (and I expect them to be much better this year).

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Very happy with all three additions and they easily outpace some of the ołd members like DePaul and Seton Hall. With Creighton's fan support, they will not put up with many 4-14 conference records (and I expect them to be much better this year).

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Agreed. Butler has consistently gotten more out of less, and nobody can take away their Final Four appearances. Still, those were lightning strikes. They dominated the Horizon League, but that was much easier to do than other leagues, like the MVC. They did not dominate in their one year in the A-10. Xavier has been consistent, but again, arguably in at easier league than the MVC. Creighton has consistently contended in a league that is roughly the same level as the A-10. They have not been great, but they have usually been at least NIT quality, and they have made the NCAA repeatedly. I do not put much stock in how teams or coaches do in the tournament. Too many variables, too much luck. Creighton has wanted to step up its program for a long time, and this is their chance. Playing in the Big East is going to give them a chance to go after better players. For all of them, there are going to be some down years. There have to be. if somebody in the conference is going to 14-4, somebody else is likely to go 4-14. But that will mostly even out, and I expect Creighton most years to be a contender, or at least a tough out. Now, take that team from last year and put them in the Horizon League instead. They might not be better, but their record sure would be.

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Agreed. Butler has consistently gotten more out of less, and nobody can take away their Final Four appearances. Still, those were lightning strikes. They dominated the Horizon League, but that was much easier to do than other leagues, like the MVC. They did not dominate in their one year in the A-10. Xavier has been consistent, but again, arguably in at easier league than the MVC. Creighton has consistently contended in a league that is roughly the same level as the A-10. They have not been great, but they have usually been at least NIT quality, and they have made the NCAA repeatedly. I do not put much stock in how teams or coaches do in the tournament. Too many variables, too much luck. Creighton has wanted to step up its program for a long time, and this is their chance. Playing in the Big East is going to give them a chance to go after better players. For all of them, there are going to be some down years. There have to be. if somebody in the conference is going to 14-4, somebody else is likely to go 4-14. But that will mostly even out, and I expect Creighton most years to be a contender, or at least a tough out. Now, take that team from last year and put them in the Horizon League instead. They might not be better, but their record sure would be.

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I get what you are saying, with the new league you can pretty much throw history out the window. Doesn't matter what they did in the Horizon, A-10, or MVC because we don't get tournament credits for that success either. Luckily so far all three seem to be recruiting good which will hopefully result in some more tournament success in the future. It will be hard to truly judge this new conference for at least another 2-3 years because you have to get through a full 4 years of recruiting to see if the impact is there. So far it appears its what everyone expected, still a solid league, but is not the same as what it was. Honestly from MU's perspective Butler, Creighton, and Xavier have all been more valuable to the conference to date that we have. If you have to pick a team that was expected to contribute to the new conference and has been a let down its been MU so far. Now I think we all hope that this year is the beginning of a turn around to the success we have become accustomed to over the last decade.

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Originally Posted by MKE_GoldenEagleFan

I get what you are saying, with the new league you can pretty much throw history out the window. Doesn't matter what they did in the Horizon, A-10, or MVC because we don't get tournament credits for that success either. Luckily so far all three seem to be recruiting good which will hopefully result in some more tournament success in the future. It will be hard to truly judge this new conference for at least another 2-3 years because you have to get through a full 4 years of recruiting to see if the impact is there. So far it appears its what everyone expected, still a solid league, but is not the same as what it was. Honestly from MU's perspective Butler, Creighton, and Xavier have all been more valuable to the conference to date that we have. If you have to pick a team that was expected to contribute to the new conference and has been a let down its been MU so far. Now I think we all hope that this year is the beginning of a turn around to the success we have become accustomed to over the last decade.

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Not exactly what I meant. I do not think you can throw what a team did in another conference out the window. There is something to be said for being consistently good. But I do think you have to consider what kind of competition they did it against. Butler mostly did dominate the Horizon League, but they were bigger than the league. They played some very tough non-conference games, which is one of the arguments we used to hear from UWM fans. They deserve a home game because Butler gets them against big name teams. Still, had they been playing in the Big East instead, some of those years would not have been so good. Some years they ran the table. Some years they did not. They got beat out by UWM a year or two, and would lose some games to other conference rivals who just were not very good. But if you took Green Bay who dominated the conference last year and put them in the BE, they would have gotten clobbered. Would have come up with some competitive games, but probably would have wound up near the bottom. But the big thing is that each of these teams has made a commitment to top quality college basketball. They are going to spend the money. They are going to have the facilities, They are going to play competitive schedules. That is the value they bring to the conference. Long haul, they will go up and down, but I would not be surprised to see the BE consistently put six teams in the post-season. Under the old NIT format, I would have said 8, but with the NCAA running it, that is less likely, and I doubt any will accept bids to the lesser tournaments. As for Marquette, the value we bring to the table is not in the past two years. Sure, we were supposed to break out of the gate the first year and we didn't. But Marquette represents a historically strong and successful program with lots of name recognition. I do not think anyone is worried about Marquette after last year. They know we'll be back. Nobody was worried about Georgetown when they had a couple bad seasons. Good thing. Then they went to the Final Four.

Butler was constantly good in the Horizon. However I don't think they would have been invited to the BE had they not had that run under Stevens. I think it's a little unfair to call it "lightning strikes." Stevens went out and recruited two NBA players to Butler in Mack and Hayward, and another high level player in Howard, and obviously is a very good coach.

Without that little run at the exact right time, I think they may have looked more at a Dayton or St. Louis.

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Butler was constantly good in the Horizon. However I don't think they would have been invited to the BE had they not had that run under Stevens. I think it's a little unfair to call it "lightning strikes." Stevens went out and recruited two NBA players to Butler in Mack and Hayward, and another high level player in Howard, and obviously is a very good coach.

Without that little run at the exact right time, I think they may have looked more at a Dayton or St. Louis.

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Such is life. One could say the same of MU's Final 4 run in terms of the invite to the old BE.

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Originally Posted by Nukem2

Such is life. One could say the same of MU's Final 4 run in terms of the invite to the old BE.

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Maybe, but then explain DePaul.

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Originally Posted by MU/Panther

Maybe, but then explain DePaul.

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Chicago market.......and IIRC MU pushed to have DePaul also invited?

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Originally Posted by MU/Panther

Maybe, but then explain DePaul.

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The world needs ditch diggers too, Danny.
- Judge Elihu Smails

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Originally Posted by Nukem2

Such is life. One could say the same of MU's Final 4 run in terms of the invite to the old BE.

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Maybe. I don't know what other options were on the table for the two basketball schools they wanted to invite at the time. It certainly didn't hurt.

And I am hardly blaming Butler for that anyway. When you make investments into your programs and start to win, good things happen. Xavier, Butler and Creighton are obviously dedicated to high quality basketball. So even when they have an off year, or a bad coach, they will be fine. All three are better than DePaul...and possibly Seton Hall.

Seton Hall
Here's a look at the non-conference games (home games in CAPS):

Fri., Nov. 13, DARTMOUTH, Prudential Center
Sun., Nov. 15, WAGNER, Walsh Gymnasium
Thu., Nov. 19, vs. Long Beach State, Charleston, S.C.
Fri., Nov. 20, vs. Bradley/Virginia, Charleston, S.C.
Sun., Nov. 22, Championship/Consolation, Charleston, S.C.
Sat., Nov. 28, GEORGIA, Prudential Center
Wed., Dec. 2 , at George Washington, Washington, D.C.
Sat., Dec. 5, at Rutgers, Piscataway, N.J.
Thu., Dec. 10, TROY, Prudential Center
Sun., Dec. 13, SAINT PETER'S, Prudential Center
Sat., Dec. 19, WICHITA STATE, Prudential Center
Tue., Dec. 22, SOUTH FLORIDA, Prudential Center

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Seton Hall
Here's a look at the non-conference games (home games in CAPS):

Fri., Nov. 13, DARTMOUTH, Prudential Center
Sun., Nov. 15, WAGNER, Walsh Gymnasium
Thu., Nov. 19, vs. Long Beach State, Charleston, S.C.
Fri., Nov. 20, vs. Bradley/Virginia, Charleston, S.C.
Sun., Nov. 22, Championship/Consolation, Charleston, S.C.
Sat., Nov. 28, GEORGIA, Prudential Center
Wed., Dec. 2 , at George Washington, Washington, D.C.
Sat., Dec. 5, at Rutgers, Piscataway, N.J.
Thu., Dec. 10, TROY, Prudential Center
Sun., Dec. 13, SAINT PETER'S, Prudential Center
Sat., Dec. 19, WICHITA STATE, Prudential Center
Tue., Dec. 22, SOUTH FLORIDA, Prudential Center

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That's a very decent schedule for SHU.

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That's a very decent schedule for SHU.

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Is better than MU's most likely when it all finishes up RPI wise

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Is better than MU's most likely when it all finishes up RPI wise

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Absolutely no question about that, though SHU could lose a lot of those to get a relatively low RPI.

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Is better than MU's most likely when it all finishes up RPI wise

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It's better as far as SOS goes, but there's no guarantee they'll have a better RPI. That will come down to record. If MU goes 11-2 with their only losses coming at Wisconsin and in Brooklyn while SHU goes 6-6 with losses to Virginia, Wichita State, Rutgers, George Washington, Georgia, and USF, I'd feel confident saying we'll have a better RPI.

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Originally Posted by Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

It's better as far as SOS goes, but there's no guarantee they'll have a better RPI. That will come down to record. If MU goes 11-2 with their only losses coming at Wisconsin and in Brooklyn while SHU goes 6-6 with losses to Virginia, Wichita State, Rutgers, George Washington, Georgia, and USF, I'd feel confident saying we'll have a better RPI.

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I never said SHU would be better RPI wise, but the SOS will be

2016 guard Jagan Mosely (St. Anthony's NJ) has committed to Georgetown, per his twitter page.

Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein · 6h6 hours ago
Big East note: Looks like a pretty good bet that Creighton's two freshman -- Khyri Thomas and Martin Krampelj -- will be in Jays' rotation.

@TheRecruitScoop: 2016 Our Savior New American (NY) PF Kassoum Yakwe has committed to St. John's as a member of the 2015 class. First reported by @ASlater247.

@NYPost_Brazille: Kassoum Yakwe expected to enroll in classes this week per source. Eligibility for this year work in progress. #sjubb

@BrianHamiltonSI: Syracuse and St. John's agree to hoops home-and-home. First meeting is Dec. 13 at MSG.

Would like Marquette and Notre Dame to play a yearly series.

Do not hold your breath on that. Not gonna happen.

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Would like Marquette and Notre Dame to play a yearly series.

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Takes 2 to tango. Plus Cuse wants to play as often as possible at MSG. Maybe if MU and ND somehow worked it out to play annually in Chicago...