Handicapping odds of who gets added:

Which board? I tried Scout, and there is nothing on that board at all, and Rivals doesn't even seem to have a board. Can you link the site? I'd love to see that thread.

As far as Dayton goes, the Flyers have five straight 20 win seasons and five straight post-season appearances, but their appearances in the Big Dance are few and far between. In short, I'm not quite getting why some Dayton fans would be so arrogant.

This year Dayton has beaten Auburn, Alabama, and BC (by 16). But they are still generally picked to be middle-of-the-pack in the A-10. Again, why so arrogant?

There was some bad blood between UD and MU a few years back when we stiffed them in a scheduled game to play Arizona on national t.v.

Speaking of national t.v., UD fans must be elated over the A-10 t.v. package if they don't want to join a new league. And they must love the few NCAA credits the league has gotten the past several years.

In short, those who would decline an invitiation are idiots.

To clarify from a UD fan's perspective, the vast majority want to be included in the new league. Everyone I know has our fingers crossed and we generally regard UDPride group as a little nutty.

Phantom, these are threads on dayton.rivals.com. This is a premium site so not sure if you'll have access.

Most of the Flyer Faithful feel we make more sense than SLU and Butler, reasoning for this includes but it not limited to our profit stream, facilities, success in other sports (soccer, women's hoops and vball) and rabid fan base. Our recent woes in the A10 and NCAA postseason are obviously not helping our case here. In addition, many argue our proximity to X and smaller market in Dayton are reasons why Butler and SLU have a slight edge.

Archie Miller has been a great hire and is starting to build some momentum for the Flyers. Our 2013-14 class is the best we've had in a long while plus a big time transfer from OSU. I feel very strongly that if we're not included in this new conference all this momentum will be lost. Our only hope then would be to play for the A-10 title each year and follow in the footsteps of schools like Gonzaga, Butler and Creighton who compete year in, year out. But selling that to kids will be a lot harder in my opinion compared to selling kids on renewed rivalry with X and new rivalries with MU, Nova and co.

Selfishly, as a Chicago native I would one of many eager for road trips to Milwaukee every year. No more neutral site games vs Marquette.

Dayton fans - thanks for finding our message boards, and welcome aboard!

Joe Lunardi says the C7 should go to 12 or 14 teams to maximize its NCAA potential.

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Joe Lunardi says the C7 should go to 12 or 14 teams to maximize its NCAA potential.

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Just so we don't end up duplicating the mistakes of C-USA and the Big East..."Conference Everybody Else".

I don't see any problems with stopping at ten as a starting point, then adding more as needed.

Meanwhile, who's calling the shots in the C-7? Is it a consortium of presidents, ADs, or both. I think the leadership issue needs to be addressed before anything else.

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Yep, there needs to be clear leadership other than a prez of a BE7 school. Tranghese...Dan Gavitt...or even Marinatto. Need someone very quickly who knows what the heck he is doing....

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Yep, there needs to be clear leadership other than a prez of a BE7 school. Tranghese...Dan Gavitt...or even Marinatto. Need someone very quickly who knows what the heck he is doing....

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Need a Dave Gavitt type to get it rolling.

Here is a link: http://www.udpride.com/forums/showth...760#post285760

There are a few other threads too on the topic... Sounds like the few that have come over here are saying UD pride is a bit nutty though so maybe I'm sure looking at the minority.

Jim I've tried to pass our board info on to opposing fans as I've visited their board, they all seem to head to scout, but I think this site is leap years better for discussion.

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Joe Lunardi says the C7 should go to 12 or 14 teams to maximize its NCAA potential.

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The conference needs to weight the amount of TV revenue that can be expected with 10 -12 -14 teams vs. the increase in NCAA revenue that could be possible by increasing the number of conference members beyond 10. As the conference moves beyond 10, there needs to be an expectation that there would be an increase in teams going to the NCAA.

Let's say the TV money for each school is a constant $3 mil if they go with a 10 or 12 school league.
Then, if the decision is to expand past 10 to 12 schools, the two schools added to make 12 will have to result in an expectation that at least one of the two added teams will be a NCAA bid school most every year (raise the average overall NCAA bids per year). If that is not the case, then the 10 members will be actually losing money by adding the two new teams.

Bottom line, if the tv money is the same, going to 12 by adding SLU and Dayton may cost each conference members money if at least one of those schools does not annually add to the NCAA tournament money the conference receives.