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03-13-2014, 06:32 PM
MU88

Good crowd tonight too. I don't think anyone should worry about the attendance numbers. Crowd is better for the round of 8 than it was a couple of years ago.
03-13-2014, 06:42 PM
Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

Caribou, you're right about UConn. All their losses were in Big East play.

Listening to the DPU broadcast on the Score right now. Sounds like a home game for Creighton.
03-13-2014, 06:44 PM
MU/Panther

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Originally Posted by MU88

Good crowd tonight too. I don't think anyone should worry about the attendance numbers. Crowd is better for the round of 8 than it was a couple of years ago.

I'm glad people are showing up, because the box score doesn't reflect that. 14,925 for the day session. Looked like 18,000 on TV.
03-13-2014, 06:46 PM
Gato78

Creighton fans are obnoxious. Need Syracuse and UConn fans to put them in their place the rest of us are too nice. A holes who think they own MSG.
03-13-2014, 06:55 PM
MU/Panther

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gato78

Creighton fans are obnoxious. Need Syracuse and UConn fans to put them in their place the rest of us are too nice. A holes who think they own MSG.

Sounds like the fans that were at the Bradley Center.
03-13-2014, 06:57 PM
Gato78

Creighton has a couple of grain fed cheerleaders. The Sun Dolls are a thing of the past.
03-13-2014, 07:09 PM
BLT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gato78

Creighton has a couple of grain fed cheerleaders. The Sun Dolls are a thing of the past.

MU Spirit Squad may be the new Sun Dolls.
03-13-2014, 07:14 PM
MU88

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLT

MU Spirit Squad may be the new Sun Dolls.

May be the lightest squad
03-13-2014, 07:23 PM
mufan2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gato78

Creighton fans are obnoxious. Need Syracuse and UConn fans to put them in their place the rest of us are too nice. A holes who think they own MSG.

I hope Creighton's program stays strong, but for a program that has not made the Sweet 16 since 1974, surprised to hear they act like they invented basketball. Glad there were no Creighton fans around my seats when they played in Milwaukee.
03-13-2014, 07:44 PM
Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

Man did DePaul ever make this a tough road to hoe. Georgetown would've had a shot against CU, but not the Blue Demons. If we win tonight that's a tough matchup tomorrow.
03-13-2014, 07:46 PM
CaribouJim

Wow - Stainbrook(sp?) playing!!!!
03-13-2014, 07:53 PM
MU_Iceman

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewcity77

Man did DePaul ever make this a tough road to hoe. Georgetown would've had a shot against CU, but not the Blue Demons. If we win tonight that's a tough matchup tomorrow.

Buzz HAS to change the defensive strategy against them. Tightly Guard the perimeter. They don't have an inside game so what's the point of sagging off the shooters?? Maybe against everyone else, but not against Creighton. What happened to the Buzz teams from a couple years ago that guarded 30 ft from the hoop?? That needs to come back tomm night(provided they win tonight of course).
03-13-2014, 07:53 PM
WindyCityGoldenEagle

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaribouJim

Wow - Stainbrook(sp?) playing!!!!

What? $hit!
03-13-2014, 08:00 PM
farmerdoc

Chill. :cool: Doesn't mean he will be effective. Go at him aggressively and make him move. Foul out early!
03-13-2014, 08:03 PM
WindyCityGoldenEagle

Quote:

Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Buzz HAS to change the defensive strategy against them. Tightly Guard the perimeter. They don't have an inside game so what's the point of sagging off the shooters?? Maybe against everyone else, but not against Creighton. What happened to the Buzz teams from a couple years ago that guarded 30 ft from the hoop?? That needs to come back tomm night(provided they win tonight of course).

Seems simple on the surface. The problem is because they play a 5 out, if you do get up in their grill and force them to drive and they get by you it's a layup as your help defense is so spread out guarding tight on the perimeter. It's really a tough tough team to game plan for. I think I probably lean towards a tight guard on the perimeter and force them to beat you off the dribble.
03-13-2014, 08:25 PM
Markedman

They tried that in the first game...it was as disaster for the same reasons you stated...if you are going to push up on the perimeter you better be able to keep people in front of you......not exactly Mu's strength especially this year....

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Originally Posted by WindyCityGoldenEagle

Seems simple on the surface. The problem is because they play a 5 out, if you do get up in their grill and force them to drive and they get by you it's a layup as your help defense is so spread out guarding tight on the perimeter. It's really a tough tough team to game plan for. I think I probably lean towards a tight guard on the perimeter and force them to beat you off the dribble.
03-13-2014, 08:29 PM
goldenlegal22

Really doubt that Stainbrook is 100%. Will be interesting to see how is used and how Buzz counters.
03-13-2014, 08:43 PM
WindyCityGoldenEagle

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Originally Posted by Markedman

They tried that in the first game...it was as disaster for the same reasons you stated...if you are going to push up on the perimeter you better be able to keep people in front of you......not exactly Mu's strength especially this year....

It really is pick your poison and I think I choose to die by the dribble drive as opposed to getting rained on from outside. Really no correct/incorrect answer. Just a tough matchup for anyone.
03-13-2014, 08:59 PM
MUfan12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gato78

Creighton fans are obnoxious. Need Syracuse and UConn fans to put them in their place the rest of us are too nice. A holes who think they own MSG.

I can't wait until they graduate everyone and suck next year.
03-13-2014, 09:03 PM
Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

Quote:

Originally Posted by MUfan12

I can't wait until they graduate everyone and suck next year.

Creighton is the next Butler.
03-13-2014, 11:20 PM
Gato78

Creighton's fans officially has been awarded the annual douchiest fan award. Formerly the sole property of West Virginia, Creighton has it locked on day 1--though a more intelligent douche. Fortunately they will be reduced to DePaul numbers next year. Also, this was the 1st pleather-free BIG EAST Tourney I have attended.
03-13-2014, 11:22 PM
MKE_GoldenEagleFan

Any hot cheerleader reports? I know its not the same without the Sun Dolls but now that MU is out we have to look at some non-basketball stuff... Photos appreciated...
03-13-2014, 11:57 PM
MU/Panther

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewcity77

Creighton is the next Butler.

I'm not sure. They have two top 100 players coming in.
03-14-2014, 09:00 AM
Gato78

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuzzWilliams4Pres

Any hot cheerleader reports? I know its not the same without the Sun Dolls but now that MU is out we have to look at some non-basketball stuff... Photos appreciated...

Nothing to see. One Brooke Shields look a like at Seton Hall and that is it.
03-14-2014, 09:14 AM
MUMac

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Originally Posted by Gato78

Nothing to see. One Brooke Shields look a like at Seton Hall and that is it.

Brooke at age 18 or age 48?
03-14-2014, 09:27 AM
Gato78

The young Brooke Shields.
03-14-2014, 09:55 AM
Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

Quote:

Originally Posted by MU/Panther

I'm not sure. They have two top 100 players coming in.

Whoop-dee-doo. They are losing 63% of their scoring and the NCAA POY. McDermott, Wragge, Manigat, and Gibbs will all be gone. Oh, and for a team that lives by the three, those four guys account for 79.9% of their three point makes and are their top four shooters in terms of long-distance accuracy. I'm not saying they won't get back to the Dance in the coming years, but next year they are going to be good and terrible. Chatman, Brooks, and Artino will be the core of their team, and when you take away the talent around them, that's not exactly awe-inspiring.
03-14-2014, 10:39 AM
IWB

If you think Creighton fans are D-Bags, hey New York - get ready for Duke & UNC fans!

The hillbillies of Va Tech, the nerds of Duke, the pleather wearing Louisville fans.....now that there is an interesting mix.

Can you imagine the Duke nerds and the high and mighty UNC fans' reactions when the Syracuse fans lay into them at the conference tourney? The crowd activity might be worth more to televise than the on court activity.
03-14-2014, 12:11 PM
MU/Panther

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewcity77

Whoop-dee-doo. They are losing 63% of their scoring and the NCAA POY. McDermott, Wragge, Manigat, and Gibbs will all be gone. Oh, and for a team that lives by the three, those four guys account for 79.9% of their three point makes and are their top four shooters in terms of long-distance accuracy. I'm not saying they won't get back to the Dance in the coming years, but next year they are going to be good and terrible. Chatman, Brooks, and Artino will be the core of their team, and when you take away the talent around them, that's not exactly awe-inspiring.

I can't disagree with any of that. I guess we will see.
03-14-2014, 12:32 PM
Goose85

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Originally Posted by MU/Panther

I can't disagree with any of that. I guess we will see.

We had three top 100 players come in this past year, and none along with a lot of returing players could make up for the loss of Junior / Vander / Trent.

I have come to realize there is a huge difference in the top 5 from the rest (Parker/Wiggins/Randall, etc). Then there seems to be another group in the 6-25 range that should contribute right away. After that, depending on year, the rest of the top 100 is no lock to contribute out of the gate.

A lot of top 100 guys, like the guys at MU this year, need time to fit into big time college basketball and school.
03-14-2014, 12:46 PM
MU/Panther

Ratings for recruiting is overrated. They even tell you that.
03-14-2014, 06:09 PM
Gato78

Not as much juice for semis as years past. Creighton fans think there is only one game tonight. None have arrived. Might have redefined the West Virginia douchiness award.
03-14-2014, 06:21 PM
MU88

Poorest crowd, so far. PC fans are loud. Does SH have any fans?
03-14-2014, 06:47 PM
MayorBeluga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gato78

Not as much juice for semis as years past.

Sadly true. Normally electric feel in MSG on Friday night. Just don't get same buzz. Maybe if SJU or Nova was playing. All the more reason we need the Johnnies to be good
03-14-2014, 06:48 PM
Gato78

Yeah. Getting noisy. Creighton fans settling dinner tabs. Should be here soon.
03-14-2014, 07:22 PM
Gato78

Creighton fans finally arriving.
03-14-2014, 07:30 PM
Gato78

It is now a true BIG EAST semi atmosphere. FWIW MSG employees kinda sick of Creighton fans.
03-14-2014, 07:32 PM
BLT

Creighton fan base is provincial. In Anaheim, even at Cal State Fullerton, they paid the school for a private party for alums...and then headed over to the gym for their game with SDSU and were pissed that all their fans took the seats. This ain't the MVC, but they are loyal and do like their hops.
03-14-2014, 07:36 PM
MU/Panther

11:32 mark of the 2nd half, Gus and Raftety saying look around at this great crowd!
03-14-2014, 07:47 PM
TulsaWarrior

Marketing comment.....it will take time to rebuild.

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