MU vs Butler game thread

Butler just out executed MU on both ends lof the floor down the stretch

How in the world was that not a foul? Anyone watching on tv that saw a replay? Was Carlino fouled?

You can't just go to Carlino everytime down the floor....somebody else has to be an option

Didn't look like a foul to me

Didn't look like a foul to me. This team is terrible at setting picks. Fischer just picked Carlino, his own man.

Shove in the back not called. .. free hand was clean

Was thinking the same thing before the ball was ever thrown in Mark....both times.

Defender got his hand between Carlino's arm and body and poked it while making contact on Carlino's arm. Close call but should have been a foul.

Duane Wilson needs to be the creator on last few seconds. .. carlino can't create shots or space

Duane Wilson needs to make lay ups. Last one was fatigue but there have been a couple others today too.

Not too impressed with referee Tony Chiazza today. Dressed down Phelps after the last missed call.

I just don't think this team knows how to win.....good enough to compete but down the stretch they just don't get it done......really a shame.....this should have been a won

I told my son that MU is a very good bad team. .. Good enough to be in most games. Not good enough to win

Another gut wrenching loss.......great coaching job by Butler to foul at half court......

Any recruits in the house? Lord knows we still need more help for next year.

MU lost a game at home while holding Butler's 2 best players to 6-28 shooting.......MU bench had 2 points on 1 of 8 shooting


48-33 defecit on the boards just too much to overcome

Cannot afford to play the stall game so early. Now, Wojo is definitely not alone in that, but a ten point lead is not insurmountable with 4 minutes left. This is a good season for him to grow and learn lessons to apply to future seasons.

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Originally Posted by warriorfan4life

Cannot afford to play the stall game so early. Now, Wojo is definitely not alone in that, but a ten point lead is not insurmountable with 4 minutes left. This is a good season for him to grow and learn lessons to apply to future seasons.

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Unless the ball is in Duane's hands, our offense all game long is stall. That said, in addition to Wojo learning lessons, I'd like to see players that have a chance to be here next year get big minutes and learn lessons.

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Originally Posted by warriorfan4life

Cannot afford to play the stall game so early. Now, Wojo is definitely not alone in that, but a ten point lead is not insurmountable with 4 minutes left. This is a good season for him to grow and learn lessons to apply to future seasons.

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#Packersfansagree

This has been a rough couple of weeks......ugh......my teams can't catch a break.

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Originally Posted by ge1974

Any recruits in the house? Lord knows we still need more help for next year.

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Why would any recruits be in the house? Think about it, most of the top prospects played last night or play today and there is a winter storm coming in.

Tough year. Lose most of the close games and you don't have any depth.

Am I nuts or did the Butler coaches T win this game? The refs completely changed the way they were calling the game after that, allowing Butler to close gap with clock stopped. They were letting them play until then.

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Originally Posted by TedBaxter

Why would any recruits be in the house? Think about it, most of the top prospects played last night or play today and there is a winter storm coming in.

Tough year. Lose most of the close games and you don't have any depth.

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IWB said Henry was there. Thought I saw him on TV behind the MU bench.

He's talking potential recruits.

This January, I've seen enough failed stall offenses (in two sports) to last the next ten years. All but two guys shut it down on offense in last four minutes..that is just too easy to defend.

I am struggling with the suggestion that Wojo directed them to run clock. I think it is more an execution issue that left them with bad/defended/late clock shots, not Wojo telling them to dribble around aimlessly for 30 seconds.

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Originally Posted by kneelb4zerg

I am struggling with the suggestion that Wojo directed them to run clock. I think it is more an execution issue that left them with bad/defended/late clock shots, not Wojo telling them to dribble around aimlessly for 30 seconds.

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I will say that there were a lot of last second possessions in the first 36 minutes. Bottom line is that everyone is growing this year and most objective signs look very positive long term.

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Originally Posted by kneelb4zerg

Am I nuts or did the Butler coaches T win this game? The refs completely changed the way they were calling the game after that, allowing Butler to close gap with clock stopped. They were letting them play until then.

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I don't think the refs had anything to do with it. MU was out-coached and out-played the last four minutes of that game.

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Originally Posted by TheSultan

I don't think the refs had anything to do with it. MU was out-coached and out-played the last four minutes of that game.

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I agree. Wojo was simply outcoached here, though those pesky offensive rebounds did not help. Seniors really need to come up big in games like this. Alas, that was not the case. It was a tough one today at the BC, we move on.

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Originally Posted by TedBaxter

Why would any recruits be in the house? Think about it, most of the top prospects played last night or play today and there is a winter storm coming in.

Tough year. Lose most of the close games and you don't have any depth.

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Did someone piss in your cheerios this morning? I thought I heard that Sacar Amin was coming in for a visit. Wasn't Henry Ellenson in from Rice Lake today according to IWB? If he could make it with the storm of the century coming why couldn't others? Maybe YOU think about it. Geez.

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Originally Posted by goldenlegal22

IWB said Henry was there. Thought I saw him on TV behind the MU bench.

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Not sure where he was, but he was on the Jumbotron during Smile Cam in first half.

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Originally Posted by Markedman

You can't just go to Carlino everytime down the floor....somebody else has to be an option

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Yep. Wojo needs to work on that. Matt just does not have the ball skills to be doubled up in crunch. Unfortunately, the alternative is Derrick who is not that good in that situation. such is life.

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Originally Posted by kneelb4zerg

Am I nuts or did the Butler coaches T win this game? The refs completely changed the way they were calling the game after that, allowing Butler to close gap with clock stopped. They were letting them play until then.

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I thought it more changed how Butler played. They were more effective at both ends. It was a turning point, and our guys certainly didn't execute, but while there were calls I didn't agree with the refs weren't the difference in the game.

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Originally Posted by Nukem2

Yep. Wojo needs to work on that. Matt just does not have the ball skills to be doubled up in crunch. Unfortunately, the alternative is Derrick who is not that good in that situation. such is life.

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The elephant in the room keeps getting ignored for some reason. At best, in close late game situations, we are going 4 on 5 offensively. It begins and ends there when the defense tightens up.

I think some of us are just sick of the elephant being thrown under the bus over and over again...........serves no purpose

We are just not good enough.....it is really that simple.

It isn't any 1 player's fault.

ps The elephant guarded Jones and held him to 1-12 from the floor.

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Originally Posted by Markedman

I think some of us are just sick of the elephant being thrown under the bus over and over again...........serves no purpose

We are just not good enough.....it is really that simple.

It isn't any 1 player's fault.

ps The elephant guarded Jones and held him to 1-12 from the floor.

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Agree. We just are not good enough. The team does not have a closer, the guy who wants the ball and can create his own shot. It's not a depth issue. Butler played 8, so did we. Los of teams play only 8. Fact is, our 8 are incomplete. They try hard, no question about that.

It is not the players fault, they are who they are. It is not a Wojo issue, as some simpletons on other boards claim. We just do not have the horses. Unfortunately, MU may be sitting home for a second straight season. At this point, we will struggle to get an NIT bid.

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Originally Posted by Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

I thought it more changed how Butler played. They were more effective at both ends. It was a turning point, and our guys certainly didn't execute, but while there were calls I didn't agree with the refs weren't the difference in the game.

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This is more what I meant to say. The momentum completely changed with the T.

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Originally Posted by kneelb4zerg

This is more what I meant to say. The momentum completely changed with the T.

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On more than one occasion, I wanted Wojo to take a T this season. Not sure why giving the opposing team 2 FTs and the ball sometimes seem to motivate the team, but today it clearly worked for Butler.

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Originally Posted by 79warrior

Agree. We just are not good enough. The team does not have a closer, the guy who wants the ball and can create his own shot. It's not a depth issue. Butler played 8, so did we. Los of teams play only 8. Fact is, our 8 are incomplete. They try hard, no question about that.

It is not the players fault, they are who they are. It is not a Wojo issue, as some simpletons on other boards claim. We just do not have the horses. Unfortunately, MU may be sitting home for a second straight season. At this point, we will struggle to get an NIT bid.

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We do and his name is Duane. But, you cannot wait until late in OT to fully utilize him. I know he missed one or two, but but but.....

Though one of the killers was missed late bunnies in regulation. Seems Duane was responsible for at least 1-2 of those.