Getting Georgetown Into NCAA's

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Originally Posted by Markedman

If the conference is so crappy then why do 5 of the 10 schools have top 25 recruiting classes for next year? I mean good players don't want to play in crappy conferences right? http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Bas...teTeamRankings

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Use all this crap to back up your claims that you want. I want you to tell me how many legitimate title contenders the Big East currently has, or will have in the future?? Likely none, unless MU gets their crap together. THAT'S what makes a conference.

Let's go through the "power" conferences shall we?? I'm sure I will miss some, but just off the top of my head....legitimate title contenders:

ACC-Syracuse, Duke
BXII-Kansas, Oklahoma State
B10- Michigan St, Michigan
SEC-Florida, Kentucky


I mean the 4 power conferences have probably at least two legitimate national Title contenders, in some cases probably 1-2 more. The Big East has....ZERO. It will always be like this.

Brew City Ball Stages of Grief (Kubler-Ross Model) that MU is not going to make the tournament, user status:

Denial

Anger: MU_Iceman

Bargaining:

Depression:

Acceptance: everybody else

Iceman has gone on some benders in the past, but this one...wow.

Your logic is circular. Your clouded sense of reality allows you to just dismiss facts as "crap."

Take a step back. Do something else for awhile.

On topic...I have a degree from GU and have friends in the program/athletic department. I hope Georgetown makes the tourney. I hope Ice gets mad about it, too.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Use all this crap to back up your claims that you want. I want you to tell me how many legitimate title contenders the Big East currently has, or will have in the future?? Likely none, unless MU gets their crap together. THAT'S what makes a conference.

Let's go through the "power" conferences shall we?? I'm sure I will miss some, but just off the top of my head....legitimate title contenders:

ACC-Syracuse, Duke
BXII-Kansas, Oklahoma State
B10- Michigan St, Michigan
SEC-Florida, Kentucky


I mean the 4 power conferences have probably at least two legitimate national Title contenders, in some cases probably 1-2 more. The Big East as....ZERO. It will always be like this.

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If Oklahoma St. is a legitimate contender, Villanova and Creighton certainly are. Creighton is 4 and Villanova is 10 in the Pomeroy ratings. You can dispute how those rankings are calculated, but I think anyone in his top 10 should be considered a contender.

People fall into this perception vs. reality problem. Georgetown and MU were picked at the top and since they aren't living up to expectations, the conference must suck. That's not the case here. People completely missed the boat on Villanova (like they have on MU the past couple of seasons) and Creighton has been the beneficiary of MU and Georgetown not living up to expectations.

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Originally Posted by Markedman

Your logic is breathtaking......

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That is a much more polite word than I am certain most everyone else was thinking.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

F you...Every damn time you come here it's to rip me. I'm so tired of your sh*t. I don't know who the hell you think you are, but i sure as hell know you don't know who I am. I've forgotten more basketball than you will ever know son.

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It looks like you have forgotten most of it ... :D

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Let's put it this way...I LOVED college BB, I lived for it...until all this conference switching and the effect it had on MU ruined it for me. You are talking about a guy that hasn't missed a second of MU hoops in probably 25 years or more. I have been a season ticket holder for 10 years, and I have not gone to more games this year than I missed in the previous nine years(which was one...weather related). I planned my schedules/life around MU games, not the other way around. I'd eat it, breathe it and sleep it. Big Mondays?? I'd always watch that...Georgetown vs. Cuse, UCONN vs. Pitt, hell yeah!! I have watched very few minutes of other BE games this year. Not too mention have shut off MU games early and even missed Saturday's game entirely. The desire is gone...yes, it has to do with their struggles, but to be honest, a good majority of it is...I just can't get excited about watching Creighton vs. Xavier and wrapping my head around the fact those are the programs MU is now associated with. It's ruined college BB for me. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way...I will bet ANYTHING MU's attendance has taken a significant drop this year from where it has been. A lot of that is the opponents they now play. That's just reality.

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Well the good news is that it has freed up some time on your schedule. Use it well.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

I absolutely agree and that's what I have been saying...but if you honestly think any of the schools in the current BE will ever be a legitimate national Title contender, at least in the forseeable future, I want some of what you're smoking. They'll have teams ranked highly sometimes, and they will win some big games in the non conference, but to be a legitimate National title contender, or too have one most years like the old BE did, or like the ACC does, or the BigXII, or Big ten?? Just not realistic. Sustained success more than anything is what makes a good conference. The old BE had that amongst it's core group of teams(and yes that included MU). There was always National title contenders amongst them every year. This BE?? Maybe even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile, but for them to sustain it?? Not a chance in hell.

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But you said earlier in this thread that you don't want other BE members to have success.

So which is it? Do you want Georgetown, Villanova, et al to succeed so that the BE becomes a better conference? Or do you want them to fail?

Or would you just rather complain? <ding ding ding>

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Originally Posted by kneelb4zerg

Brew City Ball Stages of Grief (Kubler-Ross Model) that MU is not going to make the tournament, user status:

Denial

Anger: MU_Iceman

Bargaining:

Depression:

Acceptance: everybody else

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Wait, we can bargain? I have yet to earmark my first born for anything good...

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

F you...Every damn time you come here it's to rip me. I'm so tired of your sh*t. I don't know who the hell you think you are, but i sure as hell know you don't know who I am. I've forgotten more basketball than you will ever know son.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA. Ooooooook, sure. I've never seen you at any of the multiple coaching clinics I've been to. Maybe next time?

Listen, you over-react and I can't stand it. You have no perspective. IF I'm bored enough one of these days, I will put together a list of all the programs that have multiple years of success, followed by a dip for a year or two, and then right back to their winning ways. I'll list the actual win and RPI totals so you can see black and white. It happens almost everywhere. It's virtually impossible to maintain a high level of success year after year after year without slipping. Yet, despite the fact that you acknowledge that it happens, you still find it unacceptable.

I find it really funny that you reference Wisconsin as a team that never slips. Now, I agree that their success under Bo has been consistent and impressive. However, for a guy who loaths losing at home and finds it completely unacceptable, I find it odd that you are clamoring for MU to have UW's success despite the fact they are on a current 3 game home losing streak. If MU did that, I can only imagine how much b*tching you would be doing on this board.

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Originally Posted by kneelb4zerg

Brew City Ball Stages of Grief (Kubler-Ross Model) that MU is not going to make the tournament, user status:

Denial

Anger: MU_Iceman

Bargaining:

Depression:

Acceptance: everybody else

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I'd say that speaks volumes to were most of you are as fans...you accept mediocrity!!! Do your bosses accept mediocrity from you?? Or for those of you that are business owners...do you accept mediocrity from your employees?? I certainly hope not!!

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

I'd say that speaks volumes to were most of you are as fans...you accept mediocrity!!! Do your bosses accept mediocrity from you?? Or for those of you that are business owners...do you accept mediocrity from your employees?? I certainly hope not!!

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Of course, I have more control over my employees than I do over Marquette basketball.

How exactly are you "not accepting mediocrity" outside of ranting and raving on a message board? Are you withholding donations? Cancelling your season tickets? Writing letters to Father Wild?

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

I'd say that speaks volumes to were most of you are as fans...you accept mediocrity!!! Do your bosses accept mediocrity from you?? Or for those of you that are business owners...do you accept mediocrity from your employees?? I certainly hope not!!

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Dude it was a joke. Lighten up.

I try hard to "accept" things I have no control over. Try it!

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Originally Posted by MUBasketball

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Ooooooook, sure. I've never seen you at any of the multiple coaching clinics I've been to. Maybe next time?

Listen, you over-react and I can't stand it. You have no perspective. IF I'm bored enough one of these days, I will put together a list of all the programs that have multiple years of success, followed by a dip for a year or two, and then right back to their winning ways. I'll list the actual win and RPI totals so you can see black and white. It happens almost everywhere. It's virtually impossible to maintain a high level of success year after year after year without slipping. Yet, despite the fact that you acknowledge that it happens, you still find it unacceptable.

I find it really funny that you reference Wisconsin as a team that never slips. Now, I agree that their success under Bo has been consistent and impressive. However, for a guy who loaths losing at home and finds it completely unacceptable, I find it odd that you are clamoring for MU to have UW's success despite the fact they are on a current 3 game home losing streak. If MU did that, I can only imagine how much b*tching you would be doing on this board.

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Ohhhhh Coaching clinics?? Impressive!! That doesn't make you a worthwhile poster. maybe you should take some clinics in message board etiquette?? What you can over reaction...I call passion. So excuse me for caring!! I NEVER once said i clamor for MU to be like UW(do you have reading comprehension problems?) I simply used them as an example of a team(along with others), that haven't slipped in last # of years. Because someone made the point that it happens with every program?? Does it?? I listed some it hasn't happened to anytime lately.

Look, i'm not naive enough to think that MU was going to continue to make the tourney year after year after year. But, let me spell this out for ALL of you...this was NOT the year that was expected to happen. Not at all, and I am NOT the only one that is totally shocked by how this season has unfolded. There is simply too much talent on this team for them to be THIS bad. The talent is good enough in some of the guys that it SHOULD be covering the weaknesses of the others. It's not, and i'm baffled as to why. I'm incredibly frustrated. This season was like getting hit by a train...you had no idea it was coming. Next year would be much more understandable. I could also wrap my head around it if they were EXPECTED to struggle...but they simply weren't...find me ONE national pundit that had them anywhere lower than 1st or 2nd?? You won't do it.

What I also find a bit perplexing is how all of you are so accepting of it. Yes, I HAVE to accept it, I don't have a choice. None of us do. But that doesn't mean we can't be angry or upset about it, and not like that we have to accept it. I have to pay taxes every year to...I have to accept it, but it doesn't mean I like it...not one damn bit. I know that admitting you are pissed off about it or angry about it, means you MIGHT just give me some ammunition, but what gives me the ammo is how so many of you are just "eh, it happens". Why?? Where's the passion?? i know you all have it...demonstrate it sometimes. It's okay to get angry, it's okay to be pissed off.

Because it's just sports Iceman. I can't simply summon up the passion to continuously write paragraph after paragraph about how angry and frustrated I am about Marquette basketball.

(And why are they performing below expectations? Because their talent level was overrated, and too inconsistent.)

I am disappointed as pretty much everybody is on this board…..angry? Not even a little bit….who am I suppose to be angry at? The players who I have rooted for in good times and in bad? Buzz? Who has been nothing but outstanding in his tenure at MU? God? Larry Williams?

I don’t like paying taxes either but I don’t stomp my feet and throw a fit when I write out the check……

Instead of asking us why we aren’t as angry as you are maybe you should ask yourself a different question?

Do you somehow think if we all just got as pissed off and angry as you everything would be ok? Things would just turn around if we only cared just a little bit more?

The talent on this team is not as good as you think it is…….Predictions are guesses……clearly MU should not have been picked as high as they were with the guard group we have. Duane being hurt and McKay leaving also were factors nobody counted on.

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Originally Posted by Markedman

I am disappointed as pretty much everybody is on this board…..angry? Not even a little bit….who am I suppose to be angry at? The players who I have rooted for in good times and in bad? Buzz? Who has been nothing but outstanding in his tenure at MU? God? Larry Williams?

I don’t like paying taxes either but I don’t stomp my feet and throw a fit when I write out the check……

Instead of asking us why we aren’t as angry as you are maybe you should ask yourself a different question?

Do you somehow think if we all just got as pissed off and angry as you everything would be ok? Things would just turn around if we only cared just a little bit more?

The talent on this team is not as good as you think it is…….Predictions are guesses……clearly MU should not have been picked as high as they were with the guard group we have. Duane being hurt and McKay leaving also were factors nobody counted on.

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Then quite frankly markedman, NONE of us can judge talent, or we all over rated this group. because quite honestly, there isn't one single poster here(or probably on any of the MU boards), that can honestly say they didn't think this team wouldn't make the NCAA's(comfortably), let alone be THIS bad. They can say it now, cuz it's easy to, but NO WAY any of us thought this is what would happen. I don't ask this to be demeaning one single bit, but since I haven't followed it as closely as I typically do, is there another team in the country this year that has fallen this far below expectations than MU?? Now keep in mind...EVERY National pundit everywhere thought MU would win the BE, and NOT a single one thought they'd not make the NCAA tourney. I mean quite honestly, this season is startling when you take those factors into account. Now, if no one else has fallen this far(without major injuries), is it safe to say BASED ON EXPECTATIONS ONLY, MU would be the most disappointing team in the country?? If that's the case, how can someone that's passionate about something(even if it is basketball), not be a bit upset about that?? You can't be passionate and not show SOME emotion towards whatever it is you are passionate about. It's impossible.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Ohhhhh Coaching clinics?? Impressive!! That doesn't make you a worthwhile poster. maybe you should take some clinics in message board etiquette?? What you can over reaction...I call passion. So excuse me for caring!! I NEVER once said i clamor for MU to be like UW(do you have reading comprehension problems?) I simply used them as an example of a team(along with others), that haven't slipped in last # of years. Because someone made the point that it happens with every program?? Does it?? I listed some it hasn't happened to anytime lately.

Look, i'm not naive enough to think that MU was going to continue to make the tourney year after year after year. But, let me spell this out for ALL of you...this was NOT the year that was expected to happen. Not at all, and I am NOT the only one that is totally shocked by how this season has unfolded. There is simply too much talent on this team for them to be THIS bad. The talent is good enough in some of the guys that it SHOULD be covering the weaknesses of the others. It's not, and i'm baffled as to why. I'm incredibly frustrated. This season was like getting hit by a train...you had no idea it was coming. Next year would be much more understandable. I could also wrap my head around it if they were EXPECTED to struggle...but they simply weren't...find me ONE national pundit that had them anywhere lower than 1st or 2nd?? You won't do it.

What I also find a bit perplexing is how all of you are so accepting of it. Yes, I HAVE to accept it, I don't have a choice. None of us do. But that doesn't mean we can't be angry or upset about it, and not like that we have to accept it. I have to pay taxes every year to...I have to accept it, but it doesn't mean I like it...not one damn bit. I know that admitting you are pissed off about it or angry about it, means you MIGHT just give me some ammunition, but what gives me the ammo is how so many of you are just "eh, it happens". Why?? Where's the passion?? i know you all have it...demonstrate it sometimes. It's okay to get angry, it's okay to be pissed off.

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Coming from the person who admits he has skipped more home games this year than the previous 9 combined and also didn't watch a game on TV.

I didn't expect the team to struggle. It's certainly disappointing, but that's where it ends for most of us. I'll still be there tomorrow night cheering them on, just as I have since the early 80's when I started following the team. I will support this team whether they live up to expectations or not.

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Originally Posted by Markedman

I am disappointed as pretty much everybody is on this board…..angry? Not even a little bit….who am I suppose to be angry at? The players who I have rooted for in good times and in bad? Buzz? Who has been nothing but outstanding in his tenure at MU? God? Larry Williams?

I don’t like paying taxes either but I don’t stomp my feet and throw a fit when I write out the check……

Instead of asking us why we aren’t as angry as you are maybe you should ask yourself a different question?

Do you somehow think if we all just got as pissed off and angry as you everything would be ok? Things would just turn around if we only cared just a little bit more?
The talent on this team is not as good as you think it is…….Predictions are guesses……clearly MU should not have been picked as high as they were with the guard group we have. Duane being hurt and McKay leaving also were factors nobody counted on.

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Let's give it a shot!!! Nothing else has worked for this group, so it can't hurt to try can it?? You just never know...;)

Without going into detail I guess the easiest answer I can give is…..I can suck up 1 or 2 bad years without getting angry……Buzz has earned at least that much faith from me……


Being a fan to me means you support the team through the good and the bad…we have had lots of both since I started following the team in the 70s……

Anybody can be a fan when things are going great…….this type of season is what separates the real fans from entitled whiners…..

I think we all bought the Kool aide…..”Buzz has done it before he will figure it out” “Jake is walk on…no problem Buzz will coach him up” “Derrick can’t shoot….don’t worry he will figure it out” “Todd has never been a consistent player on or off the court…..He will mature”….etc…..

For whatever reason it didn’t happen this year…….I can accept reality or I can choose to let it ruin my year…what should a rational adult choose?

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Then quite frankly markedman, NONE of us can judge talent, or we all over rated this group. because quite honestly, there isn't one single poster here(or probably on any of the MU boards), that can honestly say they didn't think this team wouldn't make the NCAA's(comfortably), let alone be THIS bad. They can say it now, cuz it's easy to, but NO WAY any of us thought this is what would happen. I don't ask this to be demeaning one single bit, but since I haven't followed it as closely as I typically do, is there another team in the country this year that has fallen this far below expectations than MU?? Now keep in mind...EVERY National pundit everywhere thought MU would win the BE, and NOT a single one thought they'd not make the NCAA tourney. I mean quite honestly, this season is startling when you take those factors into account. Now, if no one else has fallen this far(without major injuries), is it safe to say BASED ON EXPECTATIONS ONLY, MU would be the most disappointing team in the country?? If that's the case, how can someone that's passionate about something(even if it is basketball), not be a bit upset about that?? You can't be passionate and not show SOME emotion towards whatever it is you are passionate about. It's impossible.

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Originally Posted by mutpm

Coming from the person who admits he has skipped more home games this year than the previous 9 combined and also didn't watch a game on TV.

I didn't expect the team to struggle. It's certainly disappointing, but that's where it ends for most of us. I'll still be there tomorrow night cheering them on, just as I have since the early 80's when I started following the team. I will support this team whether they live up to expectations or not.

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Please don't EVER question my passion...i want to keep supporting this team, I do, but it's incredibly hard. As many have said, it's not even a fun team to watch. I mean if they were losing, but were at least playing inspired, close basketball that'd be one thing. But they are getting run over by teams like St. John's. How the hell does that happen?? They are the ONLY team in the league that has lost to Butler @ Butler...even DePaul beat them at Butler. It's just been so shocking to me, it's really thrown me for a loop. I'm honestly not quite sure how to react to it all. Admittedly, all the conference switching and where MU is in regards to that has a lot(if not more) to do with it as well.

Things like this year happen when people, including me, underestimate how much the loss of certain players would have. Couple that with a team that has some talent issues and a team that the coach can't get a good read on.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

NONE of us can judge talent, or we all over rated this group. because quite honestly, there isn't one single poster here(or probably on any of the MU boards), that can honestly say they didn't think this team wouldn't make the NCAA's(comfortably).

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I posted this before the Southern game- http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?top...8194#msg528194

Looks like I'll be wrong about the 12-6 part, but had them pegged in non-con play. Once Duane got hurt, I figured this team would struggle to find any playmaking in the backcourt.

I'm not as frustrated by the record as much as how they got here. They've had so many lapses for several minutes at a time that are totally demoralizing. And even when they play well, they struggle to kill the game off. It's maddening at times.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Please don't EVER question my passion...i want to keep supporting this team, I do, but it's incredibly hard. As many have said, it's not even a fun team to watch. I mean if they were losing, but were at least playing inspired, close basketball that'd be one thing. But they are getting run over by teams like St. John's. How the hell does that happen?? They are the ONLY team in the league that has lost to Butler @ Butler...even DePaul beat them at Butler. It's just been so shocking to me, it's really thrown me for a loop. I'm honestly not quite sure how to react to it all. Admittedly, all the conference switching and where MU is in regards to that has a lot(if not more) to do with it as well.

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That's the difference, it's not hard for me to support the team. I've supported them through worse seasons than this. I'm disappointed by the play, but am still excited that I get to go to the BC tomorrow night and see them play.

How do they get run over by teams like St. Johns? The same way MU ran over UCONN on the opening night of the Big East. Do you realize MU played Thursday night, got on a plane to get into NYC late Thursday night, got in a practice on Friday, and then played first thing in the morning? When do you install the game plan? St. John's last played on Tuesday. That gave them 48 more hours to prepare. As we've seen, MU isn't consistent enough to just walk on the court and beat teams of similar talent.

ST Johns has more talent then this years MU team.......I don't think it's even that close ...

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Originally Posted by Markedman

ST Johns has more talent then this years MU team.......I don't think it's even that close close....

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It was mind boggling how much they have underachieved this year. They appear to be getting hot right now, so they can still be a tournament team. Stealing one at Creighton would have been huge.

Even if you're not that strong of a coach, at least instill discipline in your team. Lavin's guys just don't play together and with much fire. At least, they hadn't been until recently. I still don't have faith in them, but the talet is there, it will flow (anybody know that reference?)

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

I'd say that speaks volumes to were most of you are as fans...you accept mediocrity!!! Do your bosses accept mediocrity from you?? Or for those of you that are business owners...do you accept mediocrity from your employees?? I certainly hope not!!

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Accept mediocrity? Is this a mediocre program? Not the last time I checked. One of only three teams in the nation to reach a Sweet 16 the last three years. If this was the 10th straight year of hovering around .500 then OK.

So despite the fact that the struggles this year happen to everyone - even Hall of Fame coaches - we shouldn't accept it? What should we do, stand up and boo the players and the coach and demand that Buzz gets fired? Those are the vocal parasite sports fans who are clueless and likely didn't play sports and were picked last in backyard games. Similar to short guys who grow up and become assholes because they were picked on as a kid.

I assure you, with Buzz in charge this program will be just fine. Relax, cheer the boys on, and enjoy the ride.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Please don't EVER question my passion...i want to keep supporting this team, I do, but it's incredibly hard. As many have said, it's not even a fun team to watch. I mean if they were losing, but were at least playing inspired, close basketball that'd be one thing. But they are getting run over by teams like St. John's. How the hell does that happen?? They are the ONLY team in the league that has lost to Butler @ Butler...even DePaul beat them at Butler. It's just been so shocking to me, it's really thrown me for a loop. I'm honestly not quite sure how to react to it all. Admittedly, all the conference switching and where MU is in regards to that has a lot(if not more) to do with it as well.

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Typing rambling paragraphs and using all caps does not equate to passion.

Skipping games, in person and on TV, because the team is having a down year is a pretty damn good reason to question someone's passion. So yes, I am questioning your true passion. Sounds like you have a reserved spot on the bandwagon.

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Originally Posted by GOMU1104

Typing rambling paragraphs and using all caps does not equate to passion.

Skipping games, in person and on TV, because the team is having a down year is a pretty damn good reason to question someone's passion. So yes, I am questioning your true passion. Sounds like you have a reserved spot on the bandwagon.

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I love how people can feel free to question my passion because I miss ONE game on TV in well over 20 years(I was out car shopping) but I can't question theirs when they show NO emotion to go along with their supposed passion?? You can't have passion without emotion. It's impossible. I don't care if that passion is basketball, cars, whatever it is in life. Maybe none of you display it on message boards, but I sure as hell hope you all display at least some when watching them get dismantled by a mediocre SJU team, or losing at a terrible Butler team. One of the things I love so much about all of you is not only can i come here to talk MU hoops with you guys, but you are all VERY good as well at offering advice as to how a "rational" adult should act about a losing basketball season. It's like basketball and therapy all in one! Thanks guys! :D

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

I love how people can feel free to question my passion because I miss ONE game on TV in well over 20 years(I was out car shopping) but I can't question theirs when they show NO emotion to go along with their supposed passion?? You can't have passion without emotion. It's impossible. I don't care if that passion is basketball, cars, whatever it is in life. Maybe none of you display it on message boards, but I sure as hell hope you all display at least some when watching them get dismantled by a mediocre SJU team, or losing at a terrible Butler team. One of the things I love so much about all of you is not only can i come here to talk MU hoops with you guys, but you are all VERY good as well at offering advice as to how a "rational" adult should act about a losing basketball season. It's like basketball and therapy all in one! Thanks guys! :D

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Ice, you are the one who randomly attacks most if not all of the posters for not being good enough fans. Don't act put out when people push back against that.

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Originally Posted by kneelb4zerg

Ice, you are the one who randomly attacks most if not all of the posters for not being good enough fans. Don't act put out when people push back against that.

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Fair enough, but I think I have a defense, at least I SHOW my passion. Whether people agree with me being angry over this season is right or not, My passion is visible. I don't see ANY emotion from others here. Disappointment?? Yeah, they say they are, but it doesn't really show. I mean to each their own, I get that, but again, I don't understand how someone can be passionate about anything and not show any kind of emotion towards it?? That's what makes me question their passion. If your passionate, your emotional....they go hand and hand.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

If your passionate, your emotional....they go hand and hand.

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Are Bill Belicheck, Tim Duncan, etc not passionate because they show little emotion?

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Originally Posted by WindyCityGoldenEagle

Are Bill Belicheck, Tim Duncan, etc not passionate because they show little emotion?

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They are directly involved in the game(play, Coach), it's pretty much a given they are passionate.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

If your passionate, your emotional....they go hand and hand.

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Would you say the more emotion you show, the more passionate you are?

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Originally Posted by WindyCityGoldenEagle

Would you say the more emotion you show, the more passionate you are?

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Absofrickinglutely. No question about it.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Absofrickinglutely. No question about it.

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Would you say Dick Strong shows a lot of emotion?

I show alot of emotion when I am watching the game and I'm sure many of the posters here do.............not sure what that has to do with posting.

People will vent in game threads but even if I'm disappointed that we aren't better I won't bitch and moan at Buzz or the players.

I prefer to discuss my favorite team in as unbiased a fashion as I can.......I can love MU and still see the flaws and since I can't change those flaws I accept them...and root the team on anyway

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Originally Posted by Markedman

I show alot of emotion when I am watching the game and I'm sure many of the posters here do.............not sure what that has to do with posting.

People will vent in game threads but even if I'm disappointed that we aren't better I won't bitch and moan at Buzz or the players.

I prefer to discuss my favorite team in as unbiased a fashion as I can.......I can love MU and still see the flaws and since I can't change those flaws I accept them...and root the team on anyway

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This describes me, as well. I don't see how venting and anger on a message board is passion and shows love of a team.

And when I thought ice could not be more bizarre, he proves me wrong.

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Originally Posted by MU_Iceman

Absofrickinglutely. No question about it.

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The loudest person in the room often is the most unstable and often has the most to lose.

The most successful people (in sports and in life) are those that stay on an even keel and keep their emotions balanced.

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Originally Posted by GOMU1104

The loudest person in the room often is the most unstable and often has the most to lose.

The most successful people (in sports and in life) are those that stay on an even keel and keep their emotions balanced.

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Ding ding ding.