Tourney Thread - All Big East Games

So 2 Big East teams in the sweet 16 and neither one is Nova......conference showing it's depth.

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Originally Posted by Markedman

So 2 Big East teams in the sweet 16 and neither one is Nova......conference showing it's depth.

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Yep, just what I was going to post. Poor little BE is right there. Wish Nova could be there, but matchups prevail in one and done.

Nicely done Butler. So much for Seth Davis' Middle Tennessee lock.

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Originally Posted by Markedman

So 2 Big East teams in the sweet 16 and neither one is Nova......conference showing it's depth.

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It was said all year how even and deep the league is. Wish Nova would have continued on, as I thought they could get to the Final 4. UW was a tough matchup for them, especially in the field of 32. They had length inside and that hurt Nova.

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Originally Posted by MUMac

Seems like we have seen this playbook before and they were just fine. Sad to say, but I envy their program right now. Never thought UW would be lightyears ahead of MU, but they are.

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Agree. They just seem to reload. I do think it will be a little harder this time when they lose their entire backcourt and going to Trice/Hill. Showalter does all the little things and Koenig is likely their best PG since Devin Harris. But they still have Happ and always have someone develop unexpectedly.

Hoping MU has someone take a big jump next year.

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Originally Posted by Halo

Agree. They just seem to reload. I do think it will be a little harder this time when they lose their entire backcourt and going to Trice/Hill. Showalter does all the little things and Koenig is likely their best PG since Devin Harris. But they still have Happ and always have someone develop unexpectedly.

Hoping MU has someone take a big jump next year.

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Think it will be the player that Bo let get away (and will be the start of a family dynasty here).

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Originally Posted by MUMac

It was said all year how even and deep the league is. Wish Nova would have continued on, as I thought they could get to the Final 4. UW was a tough matchup for them, especially in the field of 32. They had length inside and that hurt Nova.

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I still think we could have a Final Four team. I'm bullish on Butler, especially in a region where everyone is overlooking the Bulldogs.

Right now the Big East is performing as expected by seed.

**They lost a toss up pairing of 11 seeds in the First Four.
**Should have had three in final 32. They did that with Xavier replacing Creighton.
**Should have had 2 in Sweet 16. They did that with Xavier replacing Nova

Now with Nova losing, they should have had one in both the Elite 8 and Final 4, and that is going to require some upsets that IMO aren't likely. (Although Butler could give UNC a game and Mack is coaching against his former boss.)

But by the end of the day, the conference will perform at worst slightly below expectations. Not the end of the world.

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Originally Posted by Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

I still think we could have a Final Four team. I'm bullish on Butler, especially in a region where everyone is overlooking the Bulldogs.

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I am too. They have had some nice wins this season: beating Nova twice, Arizona, Cincinnati, Northwestern. Jay Wright compared them to UW in the paper (especially defensively). I think Butler is better offensively.

UNC has depth in the post with Meeks, Hicks and Bradley. Butler does not have the same talent in the post, but can match UNC physically with Wideman, Chrabascz and Fowler.

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Originally Posted by MUFAN2003

I am too. They have had some nice wins this season: beating Nova twice, Arizona, Cincinnati, Northwestern. Jay Wright compared them to UW in the paper (especially defensively). I think Butler is better offensively.

UNC has depth in the post with Meeks, Hicks and Bradley. Butler does not have the same talent in the post, but can match UNC physically with Wideman, Chrabascz and Fowler.

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Fowler has really come on recently.

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Originally Posted by Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"

I still think we could have a Final Four team. I'm bullish on Butler, especially in a region where everyone is overlooking the Bulldogs.

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I hope you are right. I agree that they could make it. That Sweet 16/Elite 8 rounds will be difficult.

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Originally Posted by Halo

Agree. They just seem to reload. I do think it will be a little harder this time when they lose their entire backcourt and going to Trice/Hill. Showalter does all the little things and Koenig is likely their best PG since Devin Harris. But they still have Happ and always have someone develop unexpectedly.

Hoping MU has someone take a big jump next year.

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More likely Trice and someone else......King or Pretzel(so) would be my guess. Davison is also somebody that could get significant minutes right away.

Interesting turnover in the Ville-MI game. MI guy inbounding the ball throws a bounce pass that hits out of bounds before going in bounds. Don't recall having seen that before. Surprised the ref was alert enough to catch it. Belilein just kept shaking his head.

Louisville in trouble against Michigan .....down 4 with a minute left....

Greatest conference of all time needs Duke and NC to win to get 2 teams into the sweet 16.

ACC = Atlantic Criminal Conference. Glad to see Looeyville go down! No escorts for the team tonight!

ACC against Big 10111214. Pity they both can't lose.

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Originally Posted by ge1974

ACC = Atlantic Criminal Conference. Glad to see Looeyville go down! No escorts for the team tonight!

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Now now. Let's not go crazy. The players will just have to pay for their own escorts.

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Originally Posted by MayorBeluga

Now now. Let's not go crazy. The players will just have to pay for their own escorts.

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Haha, Mr. Mayor. Will Pitino be back to Louisville tonight in time to enjoy his favorite Italian restaurant?

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Originally Posted by ge1974

Haha, Mr. Mayor. Will Pitino be back to Louisville tonight in time to enjoy his favorite Italian restaurant?

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Just a quickie. If you know what I mean (and I think you do)

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Originally Posted by Nukem2

Fowler has really come on recently.

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Yeah, and freshman Joey Brunk (6'11"), who was a Top 60 recruit, has not been able to get into the rotation because of Wideman, Chrabascz and Fowler.

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Originally Posted by MUFAN2003

Yeah, and freshman Joey Brunk (6'11"), who was a Top 60 recruit, has not been able to get into the rotation because of Wideman, Chrabascz and Fowler.

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I believe he is red shirting. Played in 7 games early and Butler filed a hardship waiver as his father has brain cancer and Joey needed to be with him.

Wow, thanks, did not know that.

Xavier!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Mucrisco

Xavier!!!!!!!!

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Yup! And, we beat them twice!

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Originally Posted by Nukem2

Yup! And, we beat them twice!

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Handily, at that.

Geez, it was only a few weeks ago that Marquette jumped out to a 28-4 lead on X at home. I was there! Bluiett or no Bluiett - nobody was going to beat Marquette that night with our rowdy, tanked up crowd for National Marquette Day.

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Originally Posted by ge1974

Geez, it was only a few weeks ago that Marquette jumped out to a 28-4 lead on X at home. I was there! Bluiett or no Bluiett - nobody was going to beat Marquette that night with our rowdy, tanked up crowd for National Marquette Day.

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We blew them out on their home court 22 days before they made the Elite 8.

I think Butler can give UNC a game too. Can't fall into the trap of a track meet like Purdue did tonight.

Sam Vecenie‏ @Sam_Vecenie 8h8 hours ago
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So….this is something I just realized. One of these teams will play for the title.

Gonzaga
Xavier
Wisconsin
Florida
South Carolina
Baylor

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Originally Posted by TheSultan

Sam Vecenie‏ @Sam_Vecenie 8h8 hours ago
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So….this is something I just realized. One of these teams will play for the title.

Gonzaga
Xavier
Wisconsin
Florida
South Carolina
Baylor

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Wow. That list right there is crazy.

As against MU, X is having trouble defending the 3 ball.

Omara is out of his element tonight? Play Gason and the other big.

Well, at least a Jesuit school will be in the FF.

zags shot the 3 like we did against them......and with more size and a better defense the result was predictable.

Great season for X.....congrats to Few to get the haters off his back

Ok, who had Duke & Nova losing the 1st weekend, X being the most successful BE team and Kansas losing what is basically a home game?

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Originally Posted by MayorBeluga

Ok, who had Duke & Nova losing the 1st weekend, X being the most successful BE team and Kansas losing what is basically a home game?

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1 out of 3 ain't bad?

Oh...yes it is, ESPN has my bracket in the 6th percentile. :(

Heck, Kansas does play a home game in Kansas City over Christmas break every year. Played two games in the CBE Classic and lost to TCU in the Big 12 Tournament in that Arena. Amazing what Oregon did!