30 Second Shot Clock

I'm not sure they are trying to make it closer to the NBA game. I think they view the continued drop in scoring as troubling and they are trying to find a way to reverse that trend.

Low scoring games with teams standing around and running clock does not lead to an exciting game. The physical play is probably the main culprit that has to be delt with but encouraging teams to get into their offense a little quicker isn't a bad thing. IMO

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Originally Posted by Jim Ganzer, "IWB"

I understand what you are saying Alan, but I agree with Huggy here. NCAA ball is different from NBA and many, like myself, prefer college hoops. Question is, why is the NCAA constantly trying to move closer to the NBA game? Why keep fixing what is not broken?

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I'm not sure how you can watch college offenses and think the game isn't broken to some degree.

Mind you, the shot clock isn't a huge contributing factor, but college ball has really declined in quality.

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Originally Posted by Jim Ganzer, "IWB"

I understand what you are saying Alan, but I agree with Huggy here. NCAA ball is different from NBA and many, like myself, prefer college hoops. Question is, why is the NCAA constantly trying to move closer to the NBA game? Why keep fixing what is not broken?

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I agree with you, IWB. The college game is more aesthetically pleasing. There are a few NBA teams that are fun to watch that play team ball. Greg Popovich's motion is fun to watch, even though it's more of a structured motion offense. NBA rules are more geared towards individual play.

Actually, I love watching the NBA guys play in the Olympics and in the World Championships because the rules are more like the college game. The ref actually make calls, regardless of the individual, and there is a lot more team ball.

I think another huge problem is simply the rapidity with which rosters change. In the past, you would have guys playing together for 3-4 years. Occasionally someone would go pro early, but it wasn't common and it was usually after at least 2-3 years of college play. Transfers didn't happen at near the rate we see today. Building a team doesn't take a summer, it takes years. Coaches are now having to learn how best to win in the one-and-done transfer era.

Honestly, what might help scoring more than anything is finding a way to limit transfers and increase the draft age limit. Get these kids to play together longer and more consistently and I'm confident they would also play together better. They can change the rules all they want, but the reality is the very best players are only staying one year, and some of them (Jennings, Mudiay) aren't even showcasing their talents for that long. But to fix that, it would require colluding with the NBA and NBPA. I'm not sure getting closer to the NBA will fix any goals of making the game less like the NBA.

The reason that Huggy hates the rule change is that offensively he is challenged. He is a grinder coach and a shorter shot clock doesn't fit his style. He is going to struggle on the offensive side of the ball.

I really don't think the 5 seconds is going to matter much. They women already do it. I've practiced against the women using a 30 second shot clock and it's a long time. I don't think people are even going to notice, much like moving the 3 pt line back.

I think it will benefit good defenses more than anything. Those schools that excel at forcing shot clock violations will really stand out. And when they're on, they will make some offenses look very, very bad.

Jay Bilas has been vocal in saying that college basketball has been in need of change. He feels the recent rule changes were a good first step. That says a lot to me. I think the move to a 30-second clock was a good move. Although I would not be for matching the NBA at 24 seconds, 28 is as far as it should go IMO....recognizing the pros are more offensively talented than college players. The days of 4 corners and holding the ball on offense for more than a minute is hard to believe now.

I prefer the college game to the pro game, mostly because it seems games mean something. In the NBA East, lose 40 games and get yourself a 6 seed.

I would like to see the college game move the three line back. I think one thing that would improve the college game would be less a game less dependent on the 3 point shot where almost everyone in the game feel they can shoot it.

People say bigger, faster, stronger, but I think most just see less skilled basketball players (and that includes the pros). You can either shoot the 3 or dunk, that's about it. Moving the 3 point shot back a foot. Make it more of a challenge so guys who can really shoot are the ones taking the shot.

I would be interested to see the stats on how many possessions this would have actually affected last year, the possessions where shots were taking in the first 30 seconds will be unaffected other than the mental aspect of maybe rushing. However I think this is an incremental change that won't have a huge affect on scoring, teams will adjust and eventually it will be a non issue. What I think is the best change is the change on timeouts, that will make games more fun to watch because there wont be a million breaks.