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AlexJesswein
11-23-2015, 06:16 PM
10-0 MU at 1st media timeout. Looks like team has responded well.

MU/Panther
11-23-2015, 06:18 PM
6-0 run just like that. Good timeout by Wojo.

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 06:19 PM
This team loses focus from minute to minute.

AlexJesswein
11-23-2015, 06:21 PM
Did LSU agree to spot us 10 before they start playing?

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 06:23 PM
How many turnovers tonight?

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 06:25 PM
Ok, so Henry is being doubled with a third defender shading over. Don't pass it to him.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 06:25 PM
Way too many......just don't take care of the ball

ge1974
11-23-2015, 06:27 PM
I have seen Cheatham throw at least 4 "lazy" passes so far this year.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 06:28 PM
Henry has to stop trying to drive through people.....way too many offensive fouls

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 06:33 PM
I like Carter running the offense.

bleedbluegold03
11-23-2015, 06:35 PM
Henry must be averaging close to 2 offensive fouls a game...needs to be smarter

Luke is everywhere, hope it doesn't gas him out for the back stretch like against IUPUI

Awilhelmscream
11-23-2015, 06:37 PM
I hope JJJ keeps playing like this all season

Markedman
11-23-2015, 06:45 PM
Offense looks much better other then the turnovers. Team showing more patience.

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 06:45 PM
Don't like the 3's early in the shotclock. First it was Haanif and then Duane.

bleedbluegold03
11-23-2015, 06:51 PM
First half thoughts:

- Turnovers. Still can't shake them.

- much, much better defensive effort.

- Great half for Luke, save 3 fouls.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 06:54 PM
Handling the pressure has been a huge problem......Henry would help a lot in that area you would think.

MUAlphaBangura
11-23-2015, 06:55 PM
Cheatham needs to sit for about forever until he figures out how to value the basketball. May be the worst I have ever seen at Marquette( as far as lazy, stupid passes and not taking care of the ball). Overall, this team has the lowest basketball IQ I have seen in many years. Can't believe they are winning this game at half.

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 06:56 PM
Better. Still not good.

milkbone
11-23-2015, 06:58 PM
Boxscore I saw had MU with 13 turnovers at half.

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 07:03 PM
Have to move the ball with purpose.

TrevorCandelino
11-23-2015, 07:04 PM
Worst you have ever seen at Marquette? Yikes, mucho hyperbole.

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 07:09 PM
Need to come out an hold their own the first 5 minutes.

Nukem2
11-23-2015, 07:17 PM
Cheatham is a turnover machine so far. Ouch.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 07:18 PM
Cheatham is just a turnover machine

MKE_GoldenEagleFan
11-23-2015, 07:19 PM
I'm sorry, is MU even playing? Because all I hear is Ben Simmons, Ben Simmons, Ben Simmons...

MUAlphaBangura
11-23-2015, 07:19 PM
Worst you have ever seen at Marquette? Yikes, mucho hyperbole.

As far as being lazy with the ball and poor passing, yes. Add to it lazy on defense and poor positioning. Can you suggest to me who has been worse? As Wojo said, it's not about being a freshman. He has to be better if he wants minutes. He doesn't deserve minutes right now.

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 07:28 PM
JaJuan doing what he needs to do going to the basket.

MUAlphaBangura
11-23-2015, 07:28 PM
JJJ can be so effective if he just plays to his strengths. Having a really nice offensive night. He is their MVP so far as far as I'm concerned.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 07:32 PM
Duane and JJ have both had nice games so far.

Nukem2
11-23-2015, 07:38 PM
TrAci doing well this half.

MUAlphaBangura
11-23-2015, 07:42 PM
Simmons already being protected by the refs. Weak call for Luke's 4th foul.

MUMac
11-23-2015, 07:45 PM
Simmons already being protected by the refs. Weak call for Luke's 4th foul.

That was not a weak call, it was a very poor call. Simmons created the contact. No way that is a foul on Luke. Gaffney strikes again.

Nukem2
11-23-2015, 07:50 PM
Henry's got to make those front ends of 1 and 1s

MUAlphaBangura
11-23-2015, 07:51 PM
That was not a weak call, it was a very poor call. Simmons created the contact. No way that is a foul on Luke. Gaffney strikes again.

Guess I was giving him the benefit of the doubt as there was contact, but yes it was poor. Call was from Eades. No fan of Gaffney but can't rip him if he's not there. :p

TedBaxter
11-23-2015, 07:55 PM
Duane can't turn his back like that in the backcourt.

Now we get to see if they can finish this one. Starting to unravel a bit.

Nukem2
11-23-2015, 07:56 PM
Keep the ball in Traci's hands. Poor dribble by Duane.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 07:56 PM
Do they have the poise to finish?

MKE_GoldenEagleFan
11-23-2015, 07:58 PM
This game will be decided by free throws

MUAlphaBangura
11-23-2015, 08:02 PM
Keep the ball in Traci's hands. Poor dribble by Duane.

Or don't! :cool:

Awilhelmscream
11-23-2015, 08:02 PM
What is up with the f*ing Lebron treatment for Simmons?

MUMac
11-23-2015, 08:03 PM
Or don't! :cool:

Don't

MUAlphaBangura
11-23-2015, 08:04 PM
Where the F is the timeout by Wojo the last 2 minutes?

Nukem2
11-23-2015, 08:06 PM
Cheatham again.

Awilhelmscream
11-23-2015, 08:06 PM
Cheatham and Carter....

Awilhelmscream
11-23-2015, 08:07 PM
Wilson with another ill advised 3

AlexJesswein
11-23-2015, 08:08 PM
Duane hasn't learned

Nukem2
11-23-2015, 08:08 PM
Really miss Henry down the stretch.

MUAlphaBangura
11-23-2015, 08:09 PM
Pretty sure Duane Wilson thought we were 5 on 4! :confused::confused::confused:

MUMac
11-23-2015, 08:10 PM
As hard as they tried to give this one away, a big win. Young and inexperience is showing.

Awilhelmscream
11-23-2015, 08:10 PM
J.J.J. That is all.

MU/Panther
11-23-2015, 08:12 PM
Yes! YES! YES!

DCwarrior
11-23-2015, 08:12 PM
Huge win and confidence builder

milkbone
11-23-2015, 08:13 PM
MU 21 turnovers and still beats a top 20 team!!!

mufan2003
11-23-2015, 08:13 PM
Not a beautiful finish, but great to get a good win. The turnovers are maddening.

milkbone
11-23-2015, 08:13 PM
NM!!!!

MU/Panther
11-23-2015, 08:14 PM
Can the ESPN studio guys stop talking about the losing team and talk about the winning team. :(

Djgoldnboy
11-23-2015, 08:14 PM
What is up with the f*ing Lebron treatment for Simmons?

No sh!t, even post game it's all about Simmons..........

DCwarrior
11-23-2015, 08:14 PM
I would hope as Carter, Cheatham and Wilson gain more experience, they'll be able to handle the pressure much better in those situations.

Btw - Simmons is an absolute stud.

CaribouJim
11-23-2015, 08:15 PM
Mu had 21 turnovers and still beats a top 20 team!!!

....and crappy from the line too - never would have thought it. Awesome!!!!

MUMac
11-23-2015, 08:16 PM
I would hope as Carter, Cheatham and Wilson gain more experience, they'll be able to handle the pressure much better in those situations.

Btw - Simmons is an absolute stud.

He definitely lived up to the hype. Fun to watch, when he is not playing against your team.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 08:20 PM
Hell of a win. Even with all the turnovers they found a way to win. Kudos to JJ. Wojo called his number at the end and he came up big!

Carter is going to be ok

HC has to calm down.....he is playing scared. It will come for him

pbiflyer
11-23-2015, 08:27 PM
We really outplayed them:

More points
More rebounds
More assists
Higher FG%
Higher 3pt%
More blocks

and

More fouls
More TOs
More missed FTs
:D

835schroeder
11-23-2015, 08:28 PM
You have to hand it to Wojo. He got them up for this game. Outdoor practice, no Marquette practice uniforms, it seems to have worked. I could see energy from the team all game.

Djgoldnboy
11-23-2015, 08:29 PM
Hell of a win. Even with all the turnovers they found a way to win. Kudos to JJ. Wojo called his number at the end and he came up big!

Carter is going to be ok

HC has to calm down.....he is playing scared. It will come for him

Agreed, he'll make a nice move to get open, then the pass is lazy/bad choice.....it'll come together.

IrwinFletcher
11-23-2015, 08:34 PM
JJJ, Luke and Duane (except for the dumb 3) all played solid.

Traci did well though he and HC were scared to deat those last 3 minutes.

Great confidence builder for the team.

Awilhelmscream
11-23-2015, 08:36 PM
I would hope as Carter, Cheatham and Wilson gain more experience, they'll be able to handle the pressure much better in those situations.

Btw - Simmons is an absolute stud.

We know, the announcers told us all game :p

Nukem2
11-23-2015, 08:38 PM
Hell of a win. Even with all the turnovers they found a way to win. Kudos to JJ. Wojo called his number at the end and he came up big!

Carter is going to be ok

HC has to calm down.....he is playing scared. It will come for him
I don't think Haanif is playing scared. He is playing way too loose like he is in an AAU game. He really needs to tighten up his game.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 08:42 PM
Yeah I think it is both Nuke. He needs to adjust to the speed of the college game......I think he will be ok.

Awilhelmscream
11-23-2015, 08:45 PM
Yeah I think it is both Nuke. He needs to adjust to the speed of the college game......I think he will be ok.

I get this feeling HC will have a similar career arc to JJJ during his years at MU. We obviously don't know how that story ends just yet but seems to be pushing the game far too hard like JJJ did his fresh year and a little less last year.

MU/Panther
11-23-2015, 08:54 PM
We really outplayed them:

More points
More rebounds
More assists
Higher FG%
Higher 3pt%
More blocks

and

More fouls
More TOs
More missed FTs
:D
If MU cut out the last two on the list, MU blows them out. Yet, ESPN studio is slurping on LSU.

CaribouJim
11-23-2015, 08:56 PM
Hell of a win. Even with all the turnovers they found a way to win. Kudos to JJ. Wojo called his number at the end and he came up big!

Carter is going to be ok

HC has to calm down.....he is playing scared. It will come for him

Was just on the phone with one of my brothers and we basically said the exact same things about Traci and HC.

Still can't believe they pulled it out in spite of it all.

Markedman
11-23-2015, 08:56 PM
So apparently Rowsey paid his own way to go with the team to NY......and then got into it verbally with Simmons?

Nice

MU/Panther
11-23-2015, 08:59 PM
So apparently Rowsey paid his own way to go with the team to NY......and then got into it verbally with Simmons?

NiceI think Simmons had words for Wojo, first.

CaribouJim
11-23-2015, 09:02 PM
I think Simmons had words for Wojo, first.

Really? Yikes.

warriorfan4life
11-23-2015, 09:30 PM
I think Rowsey plans a ton next year, with his ability to handle/protect the ball and of course his ability to hit perimeter jumpers.

mufansince72
11-23-2015, 09:59 PM
The good news is MU shot 51.7% from the field and 36.8% from 3. Free throw percentage was brutal though at 58.3%.

WindyCityGoldenEagle
11-23-2015, 10:10 PM
Just finished the dvr, hell yeah boys!!!

Halo
11-23-2015, 10:30 PM
I think Rowsey plans a ton next year, with his ability to handle/protect the ball and of course his ability to hit perimeter jumpers.

I am hearing Rowsey has looked incredible. Will be just the shooter and cocky badass the team needs. Think Travis Diener.

Halo
11-23-2015, 10:33 PM
Butch chimes in.

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November 23, 2015 8:48 PM
LSU looked like some of the loaded AAU teams I have seen at Homestead the past 4-5 years. Athletic, entitled, and totally surprised when some team from Iowa plays them tough as can be. Credit Marquette for the win. A much more likable team without Buzz's band of rapey, **** talking, gym class taking morons. Even though some of the decisions late were breathtakingly stupid, I like them a little.



Swenson is a little angry. I love whenever MU plays it's brutally dumb basketball. UW plays a slugfest, it's a game of beauty.

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November 23, 2015 9:03 PM
madjeff66 wrote:
pebadger wrote:
I'm not as up on hoops this early in the season as I usually am, but it appears to me that LSU is ranked solely because they signed the Simmons kid.
Simmons is legit, LSU will likely be top 3 in the SEC just because it is the weakest of the P5 conferences in hoop (and that's with Kentucky), don't know if that means top 25 or not.

Best Marquette has looked all year by a ton.

If LSU is top 3 in the SEC the conference will suck. That game was a complete shitshow. I tuned in as LSU gave up an uncontested dunk on an out of bounds play underneath. That pretty much sums up the quality of the entire game. I can't remember LSU ever having a coach worth a squirt of piss on the sidelines. Don't know who this guy is but the tradition appears to be on solid footing. LSU just lost to a team that turned the ball over 22 times. I wonder how much longer Wojo is going allow Ellenson to pick up two offensive fouls per game needlessly handling the ball?

DowntownSweeney
11-24-2015, 07:33 PM
Just read that thread Halo. Lots of anger from the Swenson goof. Fun read!