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Nukem2
12-07-2013, 01:19 PM
Here we go....

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 01:29 PM
Where is Mayo

Markedman
12-07-2013, 01:43 PM
Clearly Mayo did soemthing wrong....again.....this is getting old....This team is short enough as it is...can'tr afford to be missing our best guard for games like this...

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 01:47 PM
Derrick and Jake are not getting it done.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 01:53 PM
zero points from our guards........

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 01:53 PM
UW is giving Derrick wide open looks. Sad he can't hit wide open shots.

MU_Iceman
12-07-2013, 01:58 PM
zero points from our guards........

There'd be some if Buzz would quit messing with Todd's head.

kneelb4zerg
12-07-2013, 02:00 PM
There'd be some if Buzz would quit messing with Todd's head.

Says someone who has no idea what is going on

MU_Iceman
12-07-2013, 02:04 PM
Says someone who has no idea what is going on

Nor do you, and nor does markedman who said "clearly Todd did something wrong". Until we hear confirmation of something, we HAVE to go on the assumption Buzz just is messing with his head and not playing him for whatever reason.

GOMU1104
12-07-2013, 02:07 PM
Nor do you, and nor does markedman who said "clearly Todd did something wrong". Until we hear confirmation of something, we HAVE to go on the assumption Buzz just is messing with his head and not playing him for whatever reason.

Yea becuse Buzz wants to mess with his players heads like this.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 02:07 PM
How do you figure that? Mayo is part of the rotation....he has played in every game when healthy....we have not heard ofd any injury.....so....If he isn't playing he did something to get benched.

Buzz "messing with his head" seriously? You think Buzz wants to be short handed for this game? Give me a break


Nor do you, and nor does markedman who said "clearly Todd did something wrong". Until we hear confirmation of something, we HAVE to go on the assumption Buzz just is messing with his head and not playing him for whatever reason.

MayorBeluga
12-07-2013, 02:07 PM
Nor do you, and nor does markedman who said "clearly Todd did something wrong". Until we hear confirmation of something, we HAVE to go on the assumption Buzz just is messing with his head and not playing him for whatever reason.

Well we have Buzz's history and Mayo's history, both of which tend to support Markedman.

kneelb4zerg
12-07-2013, 02:08 PM
Nor do you, and nor does markedman who said "clearly Todd did something wrong". Until we hear confirmation of something, we HAVE to go on the assumption Buzz just is messing with his head and not playing him for whatever reason.

We have to assume that Buzz is messing with his head? Did you just write that?

QuetteHoops
12-07-2013, 02:08 PM
Nor do you, and nor does markedman who said "clearly Todd did something wrong". Until we hear confirmation of something, we HAVE to go on the assumption Buzz just is messing with his head and not playing him for whatever reason.

Nah we don't HAVE to do that. Go Marquette!

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 02:09 PM
zero points from our guards........
And zero assists.....

MU_Iceman
12-07-2013, 02:11 PM
Yea becuse Buzz wants to mess with his players heads like this.

It's not fair to Todd to say "he clearly did something wrong" when we don't know that. Until we hear otherwise, innocent until proven guilty. Buzz has not played guys before because they "didn't go hard enough in practice", is that really doing something wrong, if it's something like that?? At the expense of possibly losing a game?? Really Buzz??

TheSultan
12-07-2013, 02:13 PM
It's not fair to Todd to say "he clearly did something wrong" when we don't know that. Until we hear otherwise, innocent until proven guilty. Buzz has not played guys before because they "didn't go hard enough in practice", is that really doing something wrong, if it's something like that?? At the expense of possibly losing a game?? Really Buzz??


So apparently Buzz should now consult the Iceman before making coaching decisions. I mean, I love the fact that you can make assumptions about Buzz, but others can't about Todd. Hilarious.

Oh and since we aren't a court of law, innocent until proven guilty doesn't really apply. Educated speculation is perfectly acceptable.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 02:17 PM
Matt Trebby ‏@trebby 18s
Here's your answer. RT @lanceallan: Todd Mayo missed first half due to violation of team rules. He will not play today for @MarquetteMBB

I'm shocked that I was right.....

QuetteHoops
12-07-2013, 02:19 PM
It was just tweeted mayo violated team rules. So there ya go.

TheSultan
12-07-2013, 02:19 PM
Matt Trebby ‏@trebby 18s
Here's your answer. RT @lanceallan: Todd Mayo missed first half due to violation of team rules. He will not play today for @MarquetteMBB


I HOPE LANCE ALLEN ISN"T MAKING AN ASSUMPTION!!!!!!

And really, when do you cut bait with Mayo? I know that shouldn't happen, but it gets so annoying.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 02:24 PM
Can't win a game with no scoring from the perimeter.......

MayorBeluga
12-07-2013, 02:25 PM
And really, when do you cut bait with Mayo? I know that shouldn't happen, but it gets so annoying.

Just asked that of a friend. Obviously none of us knows what the team rule is, but how many chances does he get?

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 02:25 PM
Let's get back to the game. This starting lineup is horrible...2nd half starting out like the OSU game...

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 02:29 PM
Derrick and Jake are brutal this half.

kneelb4zerg
12-07-2013, 02:30 PM
Derrick and Jake are brutal this half.

If there were better options I'm sure they would be in there

GOMU1104
12-07-2013, 02:30 PM
Derrick and Jake are brutal this half.

This game.

Still zero points and zero assists from the starting backcourt.

TheSultan
12-07-2013, 02:30 PM
Exactly...who are you supposed to be playing back there?

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 02:34 PM
Exactly...who are you supposed to be playing back there?

If we are going to lose, why not plat Dawson and Johnson...? Get experience.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 02:35 PM
I don't think he was saying they should be playing anyone else...only that our guard play is just bad.

ps. I guess he thinks the kids should be playing.....

Markedman
12-07-2013, 02:36 PM
UW not only playing better..but they are playing harder

MU_Iceman
12-07-2013, 02:38 PM
I don't think he was saying they should be playing anyone else...only that our guard play is just bad.

ps. I guess he thinks the kids should be playing.....

Lost season already. Might as well throw them to the wolves at this point. What's it going to hurt?? 5-4 after 9 games?? Raise your hand if anyone predicted that??

MayorBeluga
12-07-2013, 02:38 PM
No hustle from MU right now us the most disturbing aspect

Markedman
12-07-2013, 02:41 PM
MU looks rattled........

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 02:42 PM
Steve Taylor being held out for knee...?

TheSultan
12-07-2013, 02:44 PM
BTW, I was wrong. I would rather have Traevon Jackson than Derrick Wilson.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 02:45 PM
UW doing to MU what we usually do them.....get switches with big on smalls and then attacking off the dribble

GOMU1104
12-07-2013, 02:49 PM
Lost season already. Might as well throw them to the wolves at this point. What's it going to hurt?? 5-4 after 9 games?? Raise your hand if anyone predicted that??

Considering we start two guards that are no more than 10 mpg backups...the 5-4 record isn't shocking.

TedBaxter
12-07-2013, 02:50 PM
No hustle from MU right now us the most disturbing aspect

That's what I'm thinking as well. Jamil is the only one that seems to have any motor.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 02:58 PM
I just think we are missing a few players this year

MU_Iceman
12-07-2013, 03:01 PM
I just think we are missing a few players this year

Or just one...his name is Vander. Vander Blue.

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 03:02 PM
Don't know that there is a lack of hustle. This team is missing parts and the rotation is still a work in progress.

TedBaxter
12-07-2013, 03:03 PM
MU doesn't have that guy like a Lockett who does the dirty work and gets on the boards or gets on the floor and unfortunately, Derrick Wilson isn't like Junior in that he will drive and get the and one or the assist. Nobody with any fire.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 03:03 PM
I think we only have 1 assist in this game...at least that is what omebody said on twitter....guys are battling now but we just don't have enough playmakers on this team...the offense runs like the players are in quick sand....

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Mark Miller
12-07-2013, 03:03 PM
Vander and Jameel leaving really hurt the program.

But they will find a way. This team is missing pieces, but will be competitive.

TedBaxter
12-07-2013, 03:04 PM
Brad Autry having a conversation with Todd on the bench.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 03:06 PM
Huge 3 by Jamil...answered by Kaminsky....guys didn't quit

mufansince72
12-07-2013, 03:08 PM
Vander and Jameel leaving really hurt the program.

But they will find a way. This team is missing pieces, but will be competitive.

I think Vander leaving hurt the team. No so sure about Jameel!

TedBaxter
12-07-2013, 03:08 PM
Dekker got away with the foul on Jamil's shot and Brust cleared out Juan on the rebound.

mutpm
12-07-2013, 03:09 PM
There was little to no contact on that shot. Jamil completely took himself out of that shot.

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 03:10 PM
I think Vander leaving hurt the team. No so sure about Jameel!

Will disagree with you. Jameel could have really helped this team over time. Maybe not today...but.

TedBaxter
12-07-2013, 03:11 PM
There was little to no contact on that shot. Jamil completely took himself out of that shot.

Dekker went underneath him.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 03:14 PM
zero points and 5 fouls for Jake.....3 points for Derrick....none for JJ(limited minutes).....lots of opportunity next year for PT

Mark Miller
12-07-2013, 03:14 PM
Battling until the end. This game will help MU going forward. Got to find the right pieces.

TheSultan
12-07-2013, 03:16 PM
Lost in this is Jamil had a HUGE game.

mufansince72
12-07-2013, 03:17 PM
I am shocked that MU was able to hang within 5 or 6 points of Bucky considering MU does not have any guards.

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 03:18 PM
Battling until the end. This game will help MU going forward. Got to find the right pieces.
Yep. Need to teak the lineup and rotation. Unfortunately, another learning experience.

MU_Iceman
12-07-2013, 03:19 PM
Battling until the end. This game will help MU going forward. Got to find the right pieces.

With all due respect Mark, that's what most said after the ASU loss too. They are 2-2 since. How deep of a hole do they have to dig before it "helps" them?? A season is only so long. You only have so many chances to make a statement, and shine up your tourney resume. 5-4 after 9 games isn't exactly a glowing endorsement.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 03:20 PM
Proud of the effort being so short handed.........but I do understand an L is an L

Mayo out...Taylor hurt....

Really glad to see Jamil step forward...he needs to play like this moving forward...Otule had a nice game too....has really improved his free throw shooting

kneelb4zerg
12-07-2013, 03:20 PM
With all due respect Mark, that's what most said after the ASU loss too. They are 2-2 since. How deep of a hole do they have to dig before it "helps" them?? A season is only so long. You only have so many chances to make a statement, and shine up your tourney resume. 5-4 after 9 games isn't exactly a glowing endorsement.
Good thing they don't pick the field tomorrow !

CaribouJim
12-07-2013, 03:25 PM
Steve Taylor being held out for knee...?

Allegedly blew off a practice this week.

MU_Iceman
12-07-2013, 03:28 PM
Good thing they don't pick the field tomorrow !

Now or in March, is it really going to matter?? What have you seen after nine games to indicate to you that this is a tourney team?? They are 5-4.

kneelb4zerg
12-07-2013, 03:31 PM
Now or in March, is it really going to matter?? What have you seen after nine games to indicate to you that this is a tourney team?? They are 5-4.

I've seen plenty, and I've also seen the history Buzz has with team improvement. So feel free to jump ship because I'm not.

ge1974
12-07-2013, 03:33 PM
Allegedly blew off a practice this week.

If that's the case and Steve Taylor blew off practice this week, he can leave at mid-semester with Mayo too.

mufansince72
12-07-2013, 03:33 PM
Now or in March, is it really going to matter?? What have you seen after nine games to indicate to you that this is a tourney team?? They are 5-4.

I don't think they are a tourney team this year, but I have been told by others that I am nuts.

Nukem2
12-07-2013, 03:39 PM
If that's the case and Steve Taylor blew off practice this week, he can leave at mid-semester with Mayo too.
Buzz discussed the knee on his radio show Wed.

MU_Iceman
12-07-2013, 03:42 PM
I've seen plenty, and I've also seen the history Buzz has with team improvement. So feel free to jump ship because I'm not.

Right, but those teams had 1 or 2 non conference losses. This one has 4 and could potentially have 5(New Mexico) and possibly even more. Buzz even said this is the most losses they have ever had in the non conference in his 8 years. If they figure it out, they better do it awfully quickly. Remember, it's based on your "whole body of work". Non conference counts in that even though some/most people want to say/think Non conference doesn't really mean much.

kneelb4zerg
12-07-2013, 03:45 PM
Look, maybe they won't, but the level of whining when even the possibility rears it's head by Marq fans is pretty absurd especially given the level of success we have had. If you can't handle the rough times now and then, just stop being a fan. Otherwise grow a freaking pair. And look at the big picture sometimes. We have a great coach great facilities and great potential to get better this year and beyond. Enjoy it.


Right, but those teams had 1 or 2 non conference losses. This one has 4 and could potentially have 5(New Mexico) and possibly even more. Buzz even said this is the most losses they have ever had in the non conference in his 8 years. If they figure it out, they better do it awfully quickly. Remember, it's based on your "whole body of work". Non conference counts in that even though some/most people want to say/think Non conference doesn't really mean much.

kneelb4zerg
12-07-2013, 03:46 PM
And last year we had 3 non con losses incl. @ GB.


Right, but those teams had 1 or 2 non conference losses. This one has 4 and could potentially have 5(New Mexico) and possibly even more. Buzz even said this is the most losses they have ever had in the non conference in his 8 years. If they figure it out, they better do it awfully quickly. Remember, it's based on your "whole body of work". Non conference counts in that even though some/most people want to say/think Non conference doesn't really mean much.

Markedman
12-07-2013, 03:48 PM
Yeah I'm almost positive Steve's DNP is related to his knee.......

Mayo blew off a practice? Really?

TulsaWarrior
12-07-2013, 03:55 PM
This team may be like Dick Bennett's last Badger squad. Marquette gets hot with Thomas or Mayo shooting out of this world at the end of the season and making a deep NCAA run. Mark my words.

AlexJesswein
12-07-2013, 03:56 PM
You are a dreamer

mufansince72
12-07-2013, 03:57 PM
This team may be like Dick Bennett's last Badger squad. Marquette gets hot with Thomas or Mayo shooting out of this world at the end of the season and making a deep NCAA run. Mark my words.

got to get there first! They may shoot the lights out in the NIT

DCwarrior
12-07-2013, 03:58 PM
zero points and 5 fouls for Jake.....3 points for Derrick....none for JJ(limited minutes).....lots of opportunity next year for PT

We clearly need to get more production from the shooting guard position. Jake has to be more than a decoy out there. If Buzz doesn't trust JJ enough yet than I'd be open to the idea of playing Juan there. At least we'd get some rebounds out of the position.

CaribouJim
12-07-2013, 04:10 PM
Yeah I'm almost positive Steve's DNP is related to his knee.......

Mayo blew off a practice? Really?

Per my nephew word on campus is that Steve skipped a practice - not sure what Mayo's situation is.

MUfan12
12-07-2013, 04:27 PM
Per my nephew word on campus is that Steve skipped a practice - not sure what Mayo's situation is.

Per the head coach, he didn't practice all week because of the knee.

mufansince72
12-07-2013, 04:29 PM
Per the head coach, he didn't practice all week because of the knee.

They may be looking at Redshirts for Taylor and Duane

Alan Bykowski, "brewcity77"
12-08-2013, 02:53 PM
Or just one...his name is Vander. Vander Blue.

100% on the money. I feel he's the difference between a current 9-0 record and a likely top-3 seed in the Dance and a team that is currently 5-4 and could be on the bubble come March.

Markedman
12-08-2013, 03:40 PM
9-0 come on........Vander wouldn't have made the difference vs OSU.....he wouldn't play good in every game so we don't know how much difference he would have made in the other losses...clearly we would be better but 9-0 is just fantasy

MKE_GoldenEagleFan
12-08-2013, 04:14 PM
Agreed, no way 9-0, but I could see 8-1, or 7-2 at worst.

warriorfan4life
12-08-2013, 06:26 PM
Agreed, no way 9-0, but I could see 8-1, or 7-2 at worst.

And yet this group could easily be 7-2 or 8-1 if we had a full deck against ASU, SDSU, and Bucky.

MKE_GoldenEagleFan
12-08-2013, 06:31 PM
But alas we are not...

warriorfan4life
12-08-2013, 06:37 PM
But alas we are not...

No, but I think we are closer to being our normal tough squad then many think. If we get everyone on board, this will be still be a strong year.

MKE_GoldenEagleFan
12-08-2013, 07:12 PM
I don't think our conference is strong enough for it to be a strong year at this point. I don't think we are done, but I think we have our work cut out for us and are looking at a lower seed realistically.